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Forum Thread: Java - a P.S.

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taffy078 Java - a P.S.
Contributor 26th Oct, 2011 16:27
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I posted the following on http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/116... but as this has now been locked, this new thread is an update.

“Scan confirmed 98%. The Sun updates have been scheduled but there was an error downloading the Oracle update. I'll leave it a while and see if I need to update them manually'.
Did anyone else have this problem?”


@Mogs – I found that I needed two Sun Java updates because, as Maurice said below, when I last updated it I’d wrongly assumed it would remove the older version.
Having dug deeper, I found that two programs that I’d installed (Open Office & Safari) were using Java. Two programs that my daughter wanted (Apple & I-Tunes) were also using Java.

@Maurice – thanks for pointing us to http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/116...
Strangely, the list of programs under Control Panel/Add-Remove didn’t mention either Sun or Oracle – just Java.
I’ve just uninstalled both Java programs via Add-Remove and I’ve also deleted the Java folder via My Computer – Windows – Program Files.
I restarted, rescanned and everything is now fine – 100%. After all that hard work, and to celebrate the sunshine all day today, I’m now off to my local pub (I only go there once a week!) to enjoy a pint of Landlord’s!!

Thanks guys


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Maurice Joyce RE: Java - a P.S.
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Last edited on 26th Oct, 2011 19:16
Hope U have a nice time.

That is correct - It registers in PSI as Oracle JAVA ......

In Control Panel>add/remove it registers as normal JAVA(TM)7 Update 1

EDIT:
When U say both JAVA do U mean U have both the 64 & 32 Bit versions installed?

If so do U use a 64Bit browser? If not U should uninstall it & lessen the chances of hassle.

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taffy078 RE: Java - a P.S.
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@ Maurice. Hi. The two Java files are both 32 bit. I've forgetten the version numbers but let's say that the latest version is v3. When I last updated from v1 to v2, it left v1 in place so PSI saw two old versions that needed to be updated.

Thanks for your help.

PS I should have said that I uninstalled Open Office, Safari, Apple & I-Tunes.

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Maurice Joyce RE: Java - a P.S.
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Fine. As stated U only require one copy which should be JAVA (TM) 7 Update 1 - all others can be safely removed which is safer & recommended by Oracle.

Now the thread is dedicated to JAVA U may wish to consider this:

CLEARING & ADJUSTING THE JAVA CACHE TO IMPROVE BROWSER SPEED AND CLOSING START UP ITEMS

Works On All Windows Platforms.

The Java Control Panel applet allows for the clearance of Java's temporary Internet cache and reset the default cache size to a more reasonable level and to switch off unnecessary Start Up programmes.

Clearing The Cache.

1. Go to Start>Control Panel>Click on the JAVA Icon.

2.It will open displaying the GENERAL Tab. Look to the bottom & click on SETTINGS for the TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES.

3. This will open TEMPORARY FILES SETTINGS. Look to the bottom & click on DELETE FILES. A box with two ticks (check marks) will appear - Click OK (The clearance could take some time)- the box will disappear once cleaning is complete.

Pictorials are here if required for identification:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/plugin_cache....

4. Immediately above the Delete Files button is a SLIDER. Move that to reduce the future cache amount between 100-200MB as opposed to the excessive default level.

5. Click APPLY.

6. Open the UPDATE tab. Take the tick (check mark)out of the AUTOMATIC update box. This will prevent a programme called Jusched.exe running. PSI is already doing this job for U.

7.Click APPLY.

8. Open the ADVANCED tab. Scroll to the bottom to MISCELLANEOUS. Click the + against Miscellaneous & U will see two entries. Take the tick out of JAVA Quick Start - that will prevent jqs from permanently running.

Please note that Oracle JAVA will reintroduce the default settings each time U update the programme.

9. U may also note that Oracle have put a standalone JAVA updater in Control Panel>add/remove - my advice is to remove it & reduce dross.

Update 6 08:35 27/10/2011

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taffy078 RE: Java - a P.S.
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@Maurice. Thanks.

I actually deleted all the Java stuff including the folder in the Control Panel but I now have another problem as a result of removing Java, ITunes, Quicktime, Apple, Open Office & Safari.
This concerns Apple & Quicktime so I'll start a new thread in General.

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