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Forum Thread: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator

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Tommy81 Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Mozilla Firefox (Detected Version 10.0.2.4428) is shown that has to be updated to a version which is not the most current (shown 10.0.3 instead of actual 11.0).

PDFCreator (Detected Version 1.2.0.3) is shown as patched while it's not (actual most current version 1.3.1.0).

My info: Secunia 2.0.0.43, Win XP SP3

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Anthony Wells RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Hi ,

The PSI is a vulnerability checker and not an"updater" ; PDF Creator 1.x nas never had a vulnerability in its lifetime - you can see the Secunia report here :-

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/30180/?task=...

So any version will be displayed by the PSI as "secure/up to date" .

Firefox 10.0.3 is supposed to be an ESR version for organisations ; for more info look here :-

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations...

Are you using a personal "Release Channel" version of Ff which should have updated to version 11.0 or a "company" version which requires 10.0.3 ??

Support were busy over the last couple of days on the detection rules for Ff , but are not now likely to be back here/on the PSI before Monday next (CET) .

If you are not clear on anything , ask again .

Take care

Anthony


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Tommy81 RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Last edited on 17th Mar, 2012 10:13
on 16th Mar, 2012 17:26, Anthony Wells wrote:

The PSI is a vulnerability checker and not an"updater"

Do you please know any such updater (program updating ALL the programs, and possibly drivers/firmwares, present on the computer)?

on 16th Mar, 2012 17:26, Anthony Wells wrote:

Are you using a personal "Release Channel" version of Ff which should have updated to version 11.0 or a "company" version which requires 10.0.3 ?

I'm using a personal one. Is there any Secunia setting to discriminate between personal/company?

Thank you
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ddmarshall RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Last edited on 17th Mar, 2012 11:28
There's nothing that covers as many programs as PSI.
The general update checkers mainly scan free programs.

http://filehippo.com/updatechecker/
http://ninite.com/
http://www.cnet.com/techtracker-free/

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Leendert Kip Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Filehippo and CNet are free versions. I use Filehippo and it works well. On their site I see Ninite Pro at $9.99 and a trial period of one week. As far as I see there is no free version.

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throkr. RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Last edited on 17th Mar, 2012 17:15
@Tommy81 :

Try SUMo (http://www.kcsoftwares.com/index.php?sumo) : probably the best update checker. Free, efficient & very easy to use ... ;-)


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ddmarshall RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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It's Ninite Updater ($9.99/year) rather than Ninite Pro (from $20/month for < 100 systems) for home use.
https://ninite.com/updater/?utm_campaign=navupdate...

You have to pay for automatic updating but you can use it for free by checking the programs you are interested in on the home page and clicking Get Installer. You can then run the Installer program each time you want to check for updates. the Installer will download and install any updated programs and skip the rest.
It's a very limited list of programs and you have to get a new Installer if you install additional programs.

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Leendert Kip Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Hi ddmarshall & throkr. Thanks for the links. I'll try both of them.

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PC: JJ Computer Services
Intel Core I3 2100 3.1Ghz
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 9
Mozilla Firefox 31NL

Laptop: MSI GT780DX
Intel Core I5-2450
DDR3 RAM 6GB
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 11
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ddmarshall RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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There are some reviews here: http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-software...

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Leendert Kip Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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on 17th Mar, 2012 17:12, throkr. wrote:
@Tommy81 :Try SUMo (http://www.kcsoftwares.com/index.php?sumo) : probably the best update checker. Free, efficient & very easy to use ... ;-)


Tried this but it was more or less a disaster. During installation Avira gave a malware
warning and stopped installation process. I don't try again!

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PC: JJ Computer Services
Intel Core I3 2100 3.1Ghz
DDR3 Kingston ValueRam 4GB 1333
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 9
Mozilla Firefox 31NL

Laptop: MSI GT780DX
Intel Core I5-2450
DDR3 RAM 6GB
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 11
Mozilla Firefox 31NL
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ddmarshall RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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The Gizmo article says this:

WARNING: Should you decide to download SUMo, please ensure that you download the "Lite" or ZIP/7z versions (find the ZIP/7z versions on the download page - the links with the 7z and ZIP icons - the "Lite" version is below that, where it says "Free of all sponsors download links", as indicated in the screen shot below). The full version comes with a program called Relevant Knowledge, which is detected by most security software as spyware. While I agree with many that have contacted me that the developer is (at best) damaging his reputation by bundling SUMo with RK, you may read his explanation here. The NoRK version comes bundled with a SUMo toolbar. The "Lite" version is identical to the full version, only without the spyware, and therefore deserves to be on this list. The safest to use would be the compressed versions as they do not have installers that can add any unwanted software/keys to your system/registry.


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throkr. RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Exactly; I'm using the "lite" version since years and never had the slightest problem ...

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Leendert Kip Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Last edited on 18th Mar, 2012 13:53
Hi @ddmarshal & throker, thanks, this explains exactly what happend. I'll try the lite version.

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PC: JJ Computer Services
Intel Core I3 2100 3.1Ghz
DDR3 Kingston ValueRam 4GB 1333
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 9
Mozilla Firefox 31NL

Laptop: MSI GT780DX
Intel Core I5-2450
DDR3 RAM 6GB
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bits SP1
Secunia PSI 3.0.0.9016
Internet Explorer 11
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Anthony Wells RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Hello again Tommy81 ,

Looks like ddm has covered al the ground about updaters :))

As for Firefox , other threads/people are very concerned by this seriuos confusion between 10.0.3ESR and 11.0Release Channel versions . At least both are "secure" and your settingsshould stay the same .

I personally have never trusted "auto-updates" for Browsers in the PSI - whichever version - and could not recommend them to anyone right now . I always/only use the silent/internal updaters for Chrome or Firefox or go to the Mozilla or Google website(s) if I come across a problem (very ,very seldom) . I also try avoid FileHippo , Major Geeks , etc when it comes to Browsers . This is an area where you really cannot be too careful .

You need to check the Forum on Monday(CET) to see what Secunia Support have to say (here or elsewhere) .

Take care

Anthony

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Tommy81 RE: Wrong update status for Firefox and PDFCreator
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Last edited on 18th Mar, 2012 22:53
on 18th Mar, 2012 15:57, Anthony Wells wrote:
I always/only use the silent/internal updaters


Yes, Anthony, I came to the same conclusion :)

Thank you and everybody for the advice!
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