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Forum Thread: Alternative tto Adobe
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| Tony67
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by Tony67 on 5th Aug, 2009 13:46
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User Since: 1st Apr, 2009
Secunia System Score: 100%
Location: Melbourne, AU |
I am in the same boat with updating Adobe programs as everyone else.
I had vulnerabilities in the following:
First I uninstalled these programs using add/revove, then a reboot, then ccleaner to clean out old registry values, then reboot, then installed the latest of the following:
Adobe Air
Adobe Reader
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 10 plugin
Adobe ShochWave
After installing Adobe reader 9.1.3, secunia still says that it is INSECURE and Adobe Flash player 10.x(Active X control) is INSECURE, even after installing the updates
I heard that FOXIT READER is better/faster than Adobe reader and is not a resource hog and is less susceptible to vulnerabilities than Adobe.
Can I just uninstall all Adobe programs and install FOXIT READER instead? Is there any alternatives/equivalant programs to Adobe Air, Flash Player, ShochWave? Do I need these programs on my pc for everyday browsing?
Any advice would be welcome - thanks
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| bjm-
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by bjm- on 5th Aug, 2009 14:44, last edited on 5th Aug, 2009 14:44
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Hi Tony67,
Now that you have all the Adobe bloatware installed. You wonder if you need it for everyday browsing.
Foxit Reader is a great replacement for Adobe Reader/PDF reader.
Do you need Flash Player. If you want to view Flash content you need it. Flash Player is a cross-platform browser plug-in that delivers breakthrough Web experiences to over 99% of Internet users.
Do you need Shockwave Player. If you want access to 3D games and entertainment, interactive product demonstrations, and online learning applications. Shockwave Player displays Web content that has been created by Adobe Director.
Do you need Adobe Air. Adobe® AIR® is a cross-operating system runtime that lets developers combine HTML, Ajax, Adobe Flash®, and Adobe Flex® technologies to deploy rich Internet applications (RIAs) on the desktop. AIR allows developers to use familiar tools such as Adobe Dreamweaver® CS3, Flex Builder™ 3, Flash CS3 Professional, or any text editor to build their applications and easily deliver a single application installer that works across operating systems.
That said...For basic browsing you probably can get by very well with Foxit Reader and Flash Player. If you come across Web Content that has been created by Adobe Director then you'll need Shockwave Player. If you have a need for Adobe Air I imagine you would have already figured that out.
That said...What do you want to do?
Regards
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| GPTDesign
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by GPTDesign on 5th Aug, 2009 16:49
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I quite frankly am very sick and tired of going to 4 different computers in our company and finding all Adobe products are now listed as vunerable and insecure. When I try to download the suggested solution to the problem it does the download and "still" the Adobe program is listed as "insecure". This seems to be happening every week with Adobe programs. Worse still is that Adobe products do not seem to have very good ability to update themselves. Most of the time I have to go and "un-install" all the Adobe products and then download them fresh once again from Adobe.com. On todays notification that Adobe products were insecure (Reader/Air/Flash and so forth) I just uninstalled all of them with Add/Remove in the Contol Panel. Then went to Adobe.com and downloaded brand new versions. What do I get in return -- Secunia finds all of them still "insecure". I think Adobe needs to get their act together somehow. I am uninstalling all of their products and switching to "FoxIt" PDF reader and see how that goes for a while. Maybe if enough people do it they will find a better way to provide programs to the public. And for those who say you get what you pay for, I also own Version 9, full Adobe Acrobat program which cost hundred of dollars and it has the same problems. In fact when I go to open a PDF sent to me by email, my $300 Adobe Acrobat program says "sorry" cannot open the PDF. I need to download the "free Adobe Reader" to view the PDF. Now what sense does that make? Fox-It here I come. |
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| Tony67
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by Tony67 on 5th Aug, 2009 17:46
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User Since: 1st Apr, 2009
Secunia System Score: 100%
Location: Melbourne, AU |
Thanks for the description/explanation of all the Adobe program bjm, it really is useful as to what each of the do.
I think that I will ditch Adobe Reader for Foxit Reader and keep the others installed for now. I might experiment a little and uninstall one by one ans see how my browsing reacts.
Thanks again bjm
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FireFox 3.5.2
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| AndyDap
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by AndyDap on 21st Aug, 2009 02:22
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Watch the Foxit Reader as one of the options it comes with to improve/increase its functionality is Foxit Toolbar, which appears to be a rebadged ASK toolbar. This is an optional selection available during install.
PSI will report this toolbar as an insecurety threat that can't be patched. |
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| Slamgeden
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by Slamgeden on 21st Aug, 2009 10:04
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I would use Sumatra PDF - Its Open Source.
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by on 21st Aug, 2009 10:42
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I agree, Foxit Reader works fine but you need to pay attention during installation and NOT install the Ask Toolbar.
Or go with Sumatra PDF. Very simple and effective program. No fancy features, it just shows you a PDF-file and that's it.
I'm still searching in vain for a good reason to chose Adobe Reader that relates to the majority of PC-users. |
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| puget1
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by puget1 on 21st Aug, 2009 19:08
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F.Y.I. Be advised that if you use Open Office it is only compatible with Adobe. You will get dialogue box advising of exclusivity to Adobe. I too looked for alternatives and was_________ when I had to give up Foxit. |
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by on 22nd Aug, 2009 03:31, last edited on 22nd Aug, 2009 03:31
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No thank you. |
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| puget1
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by puget1 on 22nd Aug, 2009 17:51, last edited on 22nd Aug, 2009 17:51
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What I stated still stands: I was advised that open office would not be functional by any other platform other than "Adope"...(PERIOD) You may in fact be able to view pdf files in other readers but if you use other functions such as e-mail or attempt to create pdf files is when I got the word. Your discovery of a alternative app. is interesting and I do hope it does work. However,installing and uninstalling and attempting to find a "productive app."is time consuming also, not to mention eating up disk space with multiple applications. Therefore I will for the time being stay and tough it out with Adobe.
Just for my info is this app. compatible with all browsers. It appears that it wants to be IE compatible only. |
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by on 23rd Aug, 2009 01:34, last edited on 23rd Aug, 2009 01:34
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No thank you. |
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| puget1
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by puget1 on 23rd Aug, 2009 02:15, last edited on 23rd Aug, 2009 02:15
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User Since: 21st Dec, 2007
Secunia System Score: 100%
Location: WA State, US |
I am aggravated by exclusive rights and copyrights not to mention living in Microsoft land. It is like everyone wants to control my p.c. other than myself. The ISP I belong to is contractual and every time you speak with them or change something they immediately re-instate the contract with a penalty for cancellation. The ISP will not support Thunderbird. For all I know it has something to do with this. Microsoft rules. So, what do you think about the new problem for people with the fact that MS WORD is now under litigation and may not be functional after Feb. 2010. See where I am coming from.
BE ADVISED I HAVE INSTALLED AND WILL TEST OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS
Sorry to inform: had numerous system crashes and the program took pictures(documents) of saved files, not at all by my initiation, that were highly confidential. You sure this is not some form of spy ware? BIG Question about this program? |
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by on 24th Aug, 2009 14:34
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I use Open Office and SumatraPDF. No problem at all, works fine. |
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| puget1
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by puget1 on 24th Aug, 2009 18:02
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User Since: 21st Dec, 2007
Secunia System Score: 100%
Location: WA State, US |
Will try anything. Like everyone else who are looking for a replacement for Adobe. Thanks will try. |
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