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pughsofhay Javascript update
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Secunia PSI tells me I should update Sun Java JRE 1.6.x / 6.x.
I check all the forum replies as to which one to download. Choose the recommended and try to install. I then get "Error25099. Unzipping core files failed".
I check back to java.com and carry out all their suggestions for the workaround to resolve this but I am still getting the Error 25099.
So now I am completely unable to install the latest Java download.
I'm using Windows XP with all updates installed.

Any help will be appreciated.

Eric Pugh

Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Eric,
The solution is plastered all over the Forum!

If U have not got the latest version of JAVA (Version 6 Update 15) download it from here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_java_runtime/

Once the update is complete go to Control Panel>JAVA icon>Update Tab and take the tick out of box marked "Check for updates auto ....." (This will prevent a useless file called JUSCHED from being place in your start up menu.


Now remove all the old dross from previous versions.

The tool will remove all old versions, any useless files from previous installs except for the version U have just installed

http://raproducts.org/

*This link takes U to the site - select the Windows Binary (zip) option.
*This will lead U to Sourceforge.net to download it.
*Save the download to desktop.
*Activate the desktop zip icon which exposes the JAVARA EXE file. Click it
*Select RUN when asked.
*Select your language.
*The tool will now appear on the desktop - select REMOVE OLDER VERSIONS
*Once complete select ADDITIONAL TASKS - tick all boxes & activate.


* Right click on the desktop JAVARA zip file & delete it.

Future Updates Of JAVA.

Once all the old JAVA dross is removed future updating is easy.

Go to Start>Control Panel>click on the JAVA icon>select the Update tab>click the Update Now button.

Once the update is complete take the tick out of box marked "Check for updates auto ....." (This will prevent a useless file called JUSCHED from being place in your start up menu.

Run PSI & all aspects should register as secure.


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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Maurice
Many thanks for your prompt reply.
Yes, I tried all this but the problem is I do not have a JAVA icon in my control panel. I've no idea why not.
I downloaded http://raproducts.org and activated it.
This is on the log file as result:
JavaRa 1.15 Removal Log.

Report follows after line.

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The JavaRa removal process was started on Tue Aug 11 08:48:32 2009

Found and removed: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05

Found and removed: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07

Found and removed: C:\Documents and Settings\Eric\Application Data\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_12

Found and removed: C:\Documents and Settings\Eric\Application Data\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_13

Found and removed: C:\Documents and Settings\Eric\Application Data\Sun\Java\jre1.6.0_14

Found and removed: Software\JavaSoft\Java2D\1.5.0_13

Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608500}

Found and removed: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installe r\Folders\\C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_05\

JavaRa 1.15 Removal Log.

Report follows after line.

------------------------------------

The JavaRa removal process was started on Tue Aug 11 08:49:16 2009

------------------------------------

Finished reporting.



JavaRa 1.15 Removal Log.

Report follows after line.

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The JavaRa removal process was started on Tue Aug 11 10:03:05 2009

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Finished reporting.


I'm still getting 'Error 25099'

Any further ideas? Will be grateful.
Eric

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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Clearly U have removed some dross!

Click CTRL+ALT+DELETE - the Task Manager will appear.
Click on the processes tab. Can U see a process called jqs.exe running?

If so highlight it and click End Process.

Try to install JAVA from the link I gave U.



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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Again thanks for swift reply. I had already tried this also but jqs.exe doesn't appear in the processes.
Eric
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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Eric,
Just to confirm.

U do not have any JSE or JRE or JAVA entries in Add/Remove?

U do not have a JAVA icon in Control Panel?

If this is the case download this tool:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301/

Once activated look for any JRE/JSE/JAVA entries - highlight them & remove them.

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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Sorry about this but I have also already tried this one. JRE/JSE/JAVA do not appear in the list.
I'm stuck.
Eric
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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Have sorted the probem. I turned off my Kasperski Internet security 2010 completely while installing and this did the trick.
Very many thanks for all your help and trouble.
I should have thought of this earlier as I only installed the new version of Kasperski last week.
Regards
Eric
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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Eric,
Brilliant- just writing a script for U to enter the registry - now a waste of time.

Could U please do me a favour. I have a lady who is thinking about buying Kasperski 2010.

My investigations revealed it could be a good buy for those who want hassle free & good protection.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Maurice
It's a very good programme but quite complicated. It took me quite a while to sort out. Especially "Trusted", "Low restricted", "High restricted", "Untrusted" settings etc. It is very comprehensive and perhaps a little too complicated for some people.
I had the 2009 version before but this is entirely different.
Frankly I'm still finding my way around it after over a week.
Once again many thanks
Eric
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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Eric
Thank U - helpful.

I must say Kasperski was clever in picking up jqs. A fairly recent ( & in my view) useless addition by JAVA.

Like me U can switch it off - details here:

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/quickstarter....

U appear to be a dab hand with PC's - now U have cleared the dross with JAVARA I would recommend all future JAVA updates are done via the Control Panel icon. The next release will auto uninstall Version 6 Update 15 & U are guaranteed getting the correct new version.

U can also switch off the auto updater (JUSCHED) which in the past has been troublesome & uses the start menu.

Once again thanks for the information.

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bjm__ RE: Javascript update
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Maurice

More fun and games from JAVA.
Undate Notifier "cleansofts.org" reporting JRE 6 Update 16 released 11 Aug 2009.

Publisher: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Category: Utilities
License: freeware
Cost: $0
Filename: jre-6u16-windows-i586.exe
Size: 15.39 MB
Updated: 11 Aug 2009
http://cleansofts.org/java-runtime-environment.htm...
_______________________________________________
filehippo still @ Update 15
and Java.com reporting - Congratulations!
You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 15)
and Control Panel > Java Icon - reports I have the latest platform on my system.
More fun and games!
Regards
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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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@bjm,
BY chance I am testing 3 of these so called updater programmes.
FileHippo
Cleansoft
TechTracker Beta

They all have limitations & one of those with Cleansoft is constantly changing the file number. To date they have given me 4 false positives on my professional programmes.

By comparison (to date) FileHippo is the most reliable if U use this type of programme.

I must add my little test is far from over - I normally run them for 3 or more months & TechTracker (Cnet) is a newbie.

EDIT: As I suspected Cleansoft is giving a False positive if this update is showing on Vista or XP PC's. Update 16 is for Windows 7 which is not supported by Secunia.

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Anthony Wells RE: Javascript update
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Hi Maurice ,

Update Notifier is showing u16 for Java on my XP . They have a record of pre/early advising the "latest" versions of both Java & Flash in my experience (correctly for Flash on one occassion).
Yesterday , they showed both the latest & my version of Firefox as v3.5.1 ; I sent them an Email last night (right click menu on the programme listing) & today v3.5.2 is showing.
They sometimes fail to read your installed version correctly when it is an "internal" programme update **, updating the "installer" sometimes helps if you download it from their site !

Flie Hippo currently shows me as having Firefox v3.5 RC3
which predates 3.5/3.5.1/3.5.2 - haven't worked that out as yet .

take care
Anthony

PS: I believe Kaspersky 2010 has an easy learn (default??) setting to minimise the "pop ups" & user inputs . I am "told" that it is one of the easiest paid Suites to set up ; you can complicate it later if you wish .

**PPS: shades of Adobe & Secunia.

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bjm__ RE: Javascript update
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Hi Maurice

Guess that's why Java.com and Java Icon are telling me I have the latest platform on my System ~ Vista SP2 IE8

Interesting though:
Java SE Runtime Environment (JRE)
JRE 6 Update 16
This release is Windows 7 support-ready and includes support for Internet Explorer 8, Windows Server 2008 SP2, and Windows Vista SP2. New features include the G1 garbage collector, plus performance and security enhancements. Itanium ports will be coming shortly. Learn more...
Bug Fixes
This feature release does not contain any new fixes for security vulnerabilities to its previous release, Java SE 6 Update 15. Users who have Java SE 6 Update 15 have the latest security fixes and do not need to upgrade to this release to be current on security fixes.

Update 16 is for Win7 or is Win7 support ready?

Cleansofts.org ~ False/Positive or ?

More fun and games from our friends at JAVA.
Regards
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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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I think we have stayed from the original thread.

My exam question would be where are these "freebie" updaters getting the information from?

My test PC is XP - why are these tools confusing people by indicating they have scanned the PC & U need an update totally incorrect for that platform?

Currently update 16 is for Windows 7 released on 22nd October. IE8 was built for Windows 7 - IE7 for Vista & 6 for XP - not sure we should be muddling IE builds against OS original builds although they have been tinkered with to make them backward compatible.

I would also argue it is crazy to accept the word of an updater against the vendors own website advice. Their accuracy is in doubt & the only true way of getting reliable update/upgrade notification is from the vendor which is available to all.



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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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I think we have stayed from the original thread.

My exam question would be where are these "freebie" updaters getting the information from?

My test PC is XP - why are these tools confusing people by indicating they have scanned the PC & U need an update totally incorrect for that platform?

Currently update 16 is for Windows 7 released on 22nd October. IE8 was built for Windows 7 - IE7 for Vista & 6 for XP - not sure we should be muddling IE builds against OS original builds although they have been tinkered with to make them backward compatible.

I would also argue it is crazy to accept the word of an updater against the vendors own website advice. Their accuracy is in doubt & the only true way of getting reliable update/upgrade notification is from the vendor which is available to all.



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bjm__ RE: Javascript update
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Hi Maurice,

Thanks for the cautionary warning on the reliability of cleansofts.org

Sites with an .org always sound official to me.
Fool me once and you know the rest...

I'll certainly heed your comments and only trust the Vendor Site.

Regards
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Anthony Wells RE: Javascript update
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The produts referred to are , in my opinion , well reviewed here :-

http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-software...

UDN & UDC tell you if an update is available in a "correponding" software programme & that's it . What you do with the info is entirely up to you .

For example , Java u16 is the latest version available - I checked further at the Java website & got much the same info as bjm ; I did not "dig" further but did not see anyting to say that u16 would not work on XP . Had I decided to add it I would have checked further.

This is how Clean Softs describe themselves :-

quote"Welcome to the Clean Softs Professional Association (CSPA). CSPA is a non-profit association that tries to introduce a new standard for verifying softs against viruses, spyware & trojans. The CSPA strives to show a professional image of the software industry."unquote.

I have not come across anything to doubt their integrity or reliability, rather the opposite. Nothing is 100% , so "caveat emptor".

Anthony

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pughsofhay RE: Javascript update
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Please,please do not forward any more uopdates
Thanks
Eric L. Pugh
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Anthony Wells RE: Javascript update
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Eric,
If you mean Email updates to this this thread , you should first log in & then you will see that you can "unsubscribe" to this thread at the top of this page .
Anthony

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Maurice Joyce RE: Javascript update
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Yup - thread is now way off target - switching off to.

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