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Forum Thread: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)

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nadalotta Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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I ran a scan and 2 identical security alerts popped up - the insecure program was Sun Java JRE 1.6/6.x

I clicked on a solution and downloaded the update. I now have 2 files awaiting in my Downloads folder:

1250090935666-intergrated.jnlp

jre-6u16-windows-i586.exe.sdm


When I clicked on the second one, a message comes up that windows doesn't know what program to use to open it. Checking the web service didn't help.

OK, so I decided to try the 1250090935666 file. After clicking "run", a window opens - the first box is blank with the instruction to "Select Directory for Downloaded Files". A browse button is to the right of it.

.......and that's where I'm STUCK.

I'm thinking C: is the correct directory but then what? And another box in that window wants to know the Overwrite Behavior with "Rename existing file" shown - is that correct?

I would greatly appreciate help.

Thanks very much,
nada


Maurice Joyce RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Whoops - be careful - JAVA 16 is for Windows 7.

I would strongly advise U do this.
If U have not got the latest version of JAVA (Version 6 Update 15) download it from here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_java_runtime/

Once the update is complete go to Control Panel>JAVA icon>Update Tab and take the tick out of box marked "Check for updates auto ....." (This will prevent a useless file called JUSCHED from being place in your start up menu.


Now remove all the old dross from previous versions.

The tool will remove all old versions, any useless files from previous installs except for the version U have just installed

http://raproducts.org/

*This link takes U to the site - select the Windows Binary (zip) option.
*This will lead U to Sourceforge.net to download it.
*Save the download to desktop.
*Activate the desktop zip icon which exposes the JAVARA EXE file. Click it
*Select RUN when asked.
*Select your language.
*The tool will now appear on the desktop - select REMOVE OLDER VERSIONS
*Once complete select ADDITIONAL TASKS - tick all boxes & activate.


* Right click on the desktop JAVARA zip file & delete it.





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nadalotta RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Hi Maurice,

Thank you for the quick reply.

I just checked and I currently have Java Version 6 Update 13 (build 1.6.0_13-b03).

BTW, I have Vista Home Edition. I bought my computer 1 year ago from Dell.

Does any of this change your original post? I just want to make sure - I'm new enough to puters that I still worry about pressing a wrong button and watching the internet go down, lol.

Thanks!

p.s. I deleted those 2 files mentioned in my first post.

p.p.s. I went to the link from your post and it's for the Java Runtime Environment 1.6.0.16 update.
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wr RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Hi nadalotta,
The download you need is on the right of the page under OLD-the version you need is the 1st one-6 update 15.

Regards, wr

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Maurice Joyce RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Makes no change to the method but select version 6 Update 15.

sorry I was not aware that FileHippo have joined the race to version 16.



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wr RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Hi Maurice,
I noticed the update a coupla' days ago as I run FileHippo daily but haven't downloaded 16 as I use Vista. Hope you're having a nice weekend.

Regards, wr

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nadalotta RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Maurice & wr -


Thank you so much! Everything went smoothly and the subsequent Secunia scan showed no problems.


Thanks!
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thedillpickl RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Hello Maurice;

Quick question, you suggested:

Once the update is complete go to Control Panel>JAVA icon>Update Tab and take the tick out of box marked "Check for updates auto ....." (This will prevent a useless file called JUSCHED from being place in your start up menu.

My thought is; why not use Java to download Java? You're already there to shut off auto-updates. I've never had any problems that way.

By the way filehippo is great, it just seems like extra work for the benifit received, in this case.

thanks for your input;
Fred

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Maurice Joyce RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Fred,
There is a bit missing from my complete post on JAVA posted elsewhere on the Forum because I did not want to confuse @Nadalootta (a newbie)given that some files were already downloaded on the PC which could prove troublesome. The bit missing reads:

Future Updates Of JAVA.

Once all the old JAVA dross is removed future updating is easy.

Go to Start>Control Panel>click on the JAVA icon>select the Update tab>click the Update Now button.

Once the update is complete take the tick out of box marked "Check for updates auto ....." (This will prevent a useless file called JUSCHED from being place in your start up menu.

Run PSI & all aspects should register as secure.


This advice is given in the knowledge that since version 6 update 11 Java have been tinkering with an Uninstaller being incorporated into the main installer file. This now works beautifully & removes the previous version prior to the new installation. Once JAVARA has removed all the really old dross this is the safest & best approach to new updates.

Why do I recommend removing the auto updater?
1. In the past JUSCHED has been a hog with both CPU & Memory usage.
2. If a OSI & PSI user, that programme tells U when to update. Why duplicate?
3. Many others use FileHippo & CleanSofts to notify them of updates. More duplication.

As a general principle I do not allow any vendor, including Microsoft, to automatically download or install anything on my main platform. All updaters and update notifications are switched off. Manual installation by the PC owner gives a much clearer picture of a problem if things go wrong, saves resourses from Registry run updaters running in the background & can save problems with 3 little gems that have, & do have a history of trouble mainly - JAVA JUSCHED - ATI HOTKEY POLLER & ISUSPM STARTUP & its sibling ISUSScheduler.

U can get update/upgrade notificates direct from the vendor by email or RSS feeds into Microsoft Outlook so there is no real need to run any of these types of programme.

Sorry a bit long but U have raised a very interesting point. I will amend my advice slightly in that I do not want it to appear as an error if switching off JUSCHED is ignored.


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thedillpickl RE: Another Q About Update - Where does it go?? (Newbie Alert!)
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Maurice;

Thanks for your reply. As usual, you have very detailed info. I agree that Java used some poor update practices in the past. Seems like they finally figured out that not everyone is savvy enough and/or has the time to fix what they should have in the first place. It would be nice if other vendors would do the same (Adobe). I won't get going on that subject or I'll be up all night.

I also agree about auto-updates in general. Partly because I don't care for software that does things to my system I am unaware of. Partly because I'm stuck on dial-up and I don't like to wait five minutes for my e-mail to come up.

Again, thank you, I thoughly enjoy your comments on the forum. It's to your credit that you take time to answer us in such a helpful way.


best regards;
Fred

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