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newby JAVA Update
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I need more help. I downloaded and installed JAVA (TM)6 Update 16 (6.0.160.1).

The Control Panel shows I have two updates, namely: JAVA (TM)6 Update 15 (64bit)- 6.0.150.0; and JAVA (TM)6 Update 16 - 6.0.160.0

Question: I understood that I didn't need to uninstall the old version before installing the new one because it wasn't a patch. Should I have both installations? One says 64 bit, the other doesn't. I am confused as to what I should have. I do have a 64 bit computer. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! Newby

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Anthony Wells RE: JAVA Update
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Here is a link to Java which may help you with your questions ;-

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit....

Your OS is important , but the key is whether IE is 32 or 64 bit

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newby RE: JAVA Update
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Anthony, thank you for the info. I still can't determine if I have IE (32bit) or (IE 64bit). I went to IE, Help, About IE and all I found was that I have IE8, Version: 8.0.6001.18828; Cpher Strength: 256 bit; Product No.; Update Version 0.

I have a Vista Home Premium 64 bit operating system.

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Anthony Wells RE: JAVA Update
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The last item on the Java link I posted earlier seems to imply that if 64 bit is not mentioned , then you have/are using a 32 bit version of IE .

If you go to this link and click on the download button , it will verify your version and tell you if it is working :-

http://java.com/en/

If it says 16 is there (and it is probably the 32 bit version you have) you can probably uninstall 15 (the 64 bit version - did you choose that version , yourself ?) and see if Java is still working .

Sorry if it is a bit trial and error , but the site tools are more reliable than me.

let us know how you get on.
Anthony

Edit : further up the first link , it says 32 bit comes loaded as the default option.

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ArcEnCiel RE: JAVA Update
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With every 64 Bit Vista Version comes both IE versions, 64 Bit and 32 Bit, so you have both.

If you normally use IE it will be 32 Bit version (most plugins are only available for that...). So you don't really need 64 Bit Version of Java, if you don't use the 64 Bit IE. 64 Bit edition shows that after version number string, that it is 64 Bit like:

Version: 8.0.6001.18828 64 Bit edition

where 32 Bit shows just:

Version: 8.0.6001.18828

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Anthony Wells RE: JAVA Update
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Thanks Frank , so newby could leave things as they are for now until 15/16 need updating . As it is , if his/her 15 is 64 bit and 16 32 bit that would explain why the update did not remove 15 .

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ArcEnCiel RE: JAVA Update
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There is also a Java 6u16 64 Bit out...

I have it on my PC as I do software development sometimes on win 2003 server 64 Bit edition. So I need it for testing.

For him I would suggest to uninstall the 64 Bit edition of Java, IF he is NOT using 64 Bit IE - I personally see no reason to prefer it over the 32 Bit edition. You know, Java is always special with updates, you always install new instead of patch. On my work PC I have at least 3 JDKs, 1.4.2_x, 1.5_x and 1.6_x and sometimes even more... Like IBM JDK etc.

Anyway I prefer Firefox 3.5.x :D

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Anthony Wells RE: JAVA Update
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Hello Newby

Frank seems to have cleared that up nicely for us.

If you have/use just the 32 bit version of IE/Java , then Java's next version should do the uninstall/reinstall you were expecting .

Ask again if anything is not clear .

Anthony

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newby RE: JAVA Update
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Anthony & Frank: Thank you for your help. What would I do without help from people who understand these problems. I am a little old lady in her 70's and need all the help I can get. Thanks again. Newby

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Frank & Anthony: Thank you for your help. I learn so much from all you guys. I am a little old lady in her 70's and appreciate your help so much. Thanks again! Newby

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Anthony Wells RE: JAVA Update
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Hi Newby ,

We all need help ; me , as a serious "non-techie" , as much a I can get (thanks Frank - and others).

Don't hesitate to ask if you need more help/advice .

Take care
Anthony

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