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all4u2 Windows XP
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Why is it telling that my XP has a unsecure? When I go to microsoft update there no any thing for windows.

/Kuno

Maurice Joyce RE: Windows XP
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Clearly U have installed everything from Microsoft "Patch Tuesday"?

I had this for a short while - I did an extra Windows reboot & then a full PSI scan & the problem disappeared.

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Lexus12 RE: Windows XP
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I had the same issue and installed the non-critical XP updates. Upon rebooting, Secunia said that I still had XP issues. I ran a full scan and got a 100% score.
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reffer101 RE: Windows XP
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on 17th Nov, 2009 13:26, Lexus12 wrote:
I had the same issue and installed the non-critical XP updates. Upon rebooting, Secunia said that I still had XP issues. I ran a full scan and got a 100% score.


I was also having the same problem but after updating the Anti-Virus

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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP
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Last edited on 18th Nov, 2009 05:26
Hello;

I also had strange happenings after doing updates this weekend. I won't go into details here, but I did post a thread (XP Home insecure again or not?). Are you having problems with XP Home or Pro, and what Service Pack do you have installed?


regards;
Fred

p.s.; link to above mentioned post: http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/306...


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baumgrenze RE: Windows XP
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I am running XP Pro SP3

A BelArc scan reports:

All required security hotfixes (using the 11/10/2009 Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary) have been installed.

A Secunia PSI scan reports

This installation of Microsoft Windows XP Professional is insecure and potentially exposes your system to security threats!

Secunia strongly recommends that you update this program by installing the update that is provided by the vendor of this program.

I try to resist using IE if at all possible. I do not like the approach taken by MS with their auto update and this being the only update path linked by Secunia.

Is there some way that Secunia's results could tell me what it thinks is missing instead of telling me to run IE and trust MS?

Thanks,

baumgrenze
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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP
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Hi baumgrenze;

You can find any MS download at: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/bb403698.aspx that is, if you can find it. Happy hunting.

As far as needed information, using PSI in advanced mode (upper right corner, when "simple" is blue & "advanced" is black), click on insecure tab, click on [+] to the left of the program in question. There should be ample info to help.

I run XP Pro SP3 on my HP and haven't noticed anything yet. There were some high prioity updates last week for XP & Office.

If you want to track the updates yourself without using MS Update go to:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin... to learn how to get update bulletins from MS via e-mail. However, the e-mail will contain all MS security updates for that month.


regards;
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baumgrenze RE: Windows XP
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Thank you Fred,

I tried to paste a screen dump here, but did not succeed.

It is pretty clear to me that I am in the advanced mode. When I click on the underlined SIMPLE in blue I am warned that I am going to a less sophisticated interface.

The information available is what I posted, i.e,

"This installation of Microsoft Windows XP Professional is insecure and potentially exposes your system to security threats!

Secunia strongly recommends that you update this program by installing the update that is provided by the vendor of this program."

There is only an "N/A" in the installation path box.

Fix It! just tells me to use the MS auto update button.

I don't know if the BelArc

http://download.cnet.com/Belarc-Advisor/3000-2094_...

is updated as frequently as Secunia PSI, but here is what CNET says about it:

CNET editors' review

Reviewed by: CNET Staff on November 08, 2008

Hiring a professional computer-security consultant is out of reach for most home PC users, but Belarc Advisor can fill part of that gap.

The app analyzes a machine's weak points, looking at elements such as whether antivirus software is up to date, or whether all the security flaws in Windows have been patched. It uses the Center for Internet Security (CIS) benchmark test to give the computer a score showing its overall security level, and produces a report that can be viewed in a Web browser.

Not only does it analyze software and operating system components and tell you where problems are, but in its comprehensive report it tells you what your computer's physical components are: not just how much RAM you have, for example, but what kind of RAM and which slots are occupied.

This program doesn't fix the problems itself, but gives clear advice on how to address each issue. This download is free for personal use; we recommend it to home users as a first step in securing their home systems, or for those considering a hardware upgrade who want to see what's in their current system.

I've found it useful as an additional tool at times.

John
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Anthony Wells RE: Windows XP
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Last edited on 19th Nov, 2009 17:55
Hello John ,

My personal preference is to run Belarc** after the update & print out a copy every so often to add to my "back up" ; I then cross check with my "download/update history" at the "microsoft update" site :-

http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6...

(This is the French site as my OS is French - but you get the picture).

I navigate there using Firefox and my "IE Tab" add-on which , nowadays , auto selects IE and , because I do not use Windows Automatic Updates , I also use this way to get "there" and use "custom" selection of updates . I have WGA and so consider this the surest and probably safest way to keep my OS and MS programmes up to date.

If these two sites say you are "up to date" and PSI does not - which can happen - remembering also that PSI/MS requires a full rescan and a sometimes a full reboot and nothing in the error log to update ; PSi has been known to still show XP as insecure . IF after a couple more days the "insecure" status continues to show , you may need to contact Secunia at support@secunia.com .

Hope this is of some help .
Anthony

**It should offer to update before it runs ; you have the latest definition files .

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JoSecunia RE: Windows XP
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My attempts to install Microsoft Update KB951847 --- a .Net framework 3.5 installation --- failed on several occasions. Microsoft provided uninstall/reinstall instructions. Has anyone experienced this failure and if so what did you do to corect it, e.g., employ the Microsoft uninstall/reinstall fix ( if so what problems, if any, did you experience)? Thanks.
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Anthony Wells RE: Windows XP
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Last edited on 20th Nov, 2009 16:39

Try this thread :-

http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/304...

EDIT : Hmm ! Looks like the answer there is to install your problem KB ??

You'll have to wait for Maurice Joyce for additional advice .

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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP
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Hi John;

I was talking to my friend Lloyd who uses Firefox exclusively. He says to just use the IE tab in Firefox to start MS Update and run, just as if you were in Internet Explorer. You would be protected because your using it from within Firefox.

Hi Anthony.


regards;
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Anthony Wells RE: Windows XP
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Last edited on 21st Nov, 2009 11:51
Hello Fred ,

Actually , I'm not sure your friend Lloyd has given you exact info ; IE running in Firefox using the "IE Tab" add-on uses the IE rendering thingy embedded in Ff (or some such technical part) and as such most IE potential vulnerabilities will still apply .

Personally , I consider this to be quite safe for the usual Windows/MS updates ; occassionaly I go to look for something specific at the MS Download Centre using Firefox or Chrome .

Take care
Anthony

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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP
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Last edited on 22nd Nov, 2009 04:00
Hi John;

Anthnoy is correct in that you wouldn't be protected by using Firefox, from the MS Update site. However, Firefox is not as susceptible to incursions in general, so I suppose "safer" is a better word. The MS Udate site is "safe" as far as I can tell. I have never had any bad downloads from any MS site. One would hope that they would have the most secure sites on the web, since they (MS) have a great deal to loose.


regards;
Fred

p.s. Anthony, thanks for catching my misquote of Lloyd. The worm turns, ehh?

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