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VOXPOP OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Last edited on 22nd Nov, 2009 16:49

Secunia keeps telling me about programs that are outdated and none of the versions they mention are on my computer any longer; in other words I'm up to date and Secunia apparently isn't. What can be done about that?
thanks, Voxpop
ps This refers to firefox version 3.5.5 and Secunia finds 3.5.3
adobe flashplayer is up to date and Secunia says it isn't and they are wrong re java also which is up to date.

Maurice Joyce RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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PSI actually shows U where the vulnerabilities are located so unsure how U can make that statement.

FINDING A VULNERABILITY FILE PATH
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To locate the exact file that the Secunia PSI has detected, use or switch to the ADVANCED interface, then :

1 Click on the + sign of the programme to "expand' it.
2 Click on Technical Details in the Toolbox to see the installation path of the detected file. (Copy (CTRL+C) & paste (CTRL+V) the Installation Path of the file back to the Forum if U are unsure what to do next)).



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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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i don't understand your response. they say i have outdated programs and i don't so how can there be vulnerabilities?
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x
This installation of Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x is insecure and potentially exposes your system to security threats!

Secunia strongly recommends that you update this program by installing the update that is provided by the vendor of this program.
Installation Path
C:\Windows.old\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe

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Maurice Joyce RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Are U in PSI advanced mode?

Open PSI - look to the top right of the Overview page - U will see INTERFACE MODE - SIMPLE/ADVANCED.

SIMPLE should be blue & ADVANCED in black. If not click ADVANCED.

U may get a message about advanced users - ignore it.

Once ADVANCED is black tell me the path of the vulnerability by:

FINDING A VULNERABILITY FILE PATH
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To locate the exact file that the Secunia PSI has detected, use or switch to the ADVANCED interface, then :

1 Click on the + sign of the programme to "expand' it.
2 Click on Technical Details in the Toolbox to see the installation path of the detected file. (Copy (CTRL+C) & paste (CTRL+V) the Installation Path of the file back to the Forum if U are unsure what to do next)).



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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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i've been at the ADVANCED setting for years and i gave you the other info in my post #6 above
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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HERE IT IS AGAIN
Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x
This installation of Mozilla Firefox 3.5.x is insecure and potentially exposes your system to security threats!

Secunia strongly recommends that you update this program by installing the update that is provided by the vendor of this program.
Installation Path
C:\Windows.old\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe

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Maurice Joyce RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Your post also suggests JAVA & Flash are wrong to - there is no path to them.

PSI has given U this path:

C:\Windows.old\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe

Programmes are normally kept in C:\Windows\Program Files\.......

Looks to me that PSI has found a duplicate which requires deletion.

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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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i checked with REVO uninstaller and my vista programs and there is nothing listed for those programs..i'm having no security problems so i won't worry about what secunia found..it did find an update for the shockwave player v11 and i installed the update. i really appreciate all your time on this so thanks
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michaelsalis RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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hi Voxpop

Firstly I would be inclined to follow up on what Maurice has suggested, he is knowledgable, experienced with Secunia psi and has helped many people in the forum (quite probably thousands have benefited from his assistance).

There are several reasons why psi shows old versions of programs when you have updated them.

Very often it is because when installing the updates some files are left on your computer or the old program not uninstalled and psi being the helpful program it is will find these and allow you to deal with them. Perhaps you installed Vista over XP and the installation saves your old files in an upgrade rather than a clean install. Perhaps it is in a back up of your system. There are a number of reasons.

I do not know the reason in your case but as I said Maurice is helpful and has solved many problems for people on here after they have given him the relevant information. I guess you could say ignore what he has to say at your peril.

Michael

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Anthony Wells RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Maybe this link will help you :-

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930527

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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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I DID NOT IGNORE MAURICE..i thanked him for his time; i'm ignoring secunia because they are wrong!! i use revo uninstaller which delves into the registy after uninstalling a program and removes all the stuff left behind.
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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thanks i appreciate it but i do a ckdisk every friday and nothing has shown up as you suggest..also did not install vista over xp..vista came with a new laptop.
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michaelsalis RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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hi Voxpop

I was just suggesting various reasons for Secunia advising you of problems not the solution to your problems.

Secunia psi does a completely different job to chkdisk and if it says you have a problem you can be 99.9% sure there is one!!!!

Obviously it is upto you to decide what to do but I would not ignore what psi has come up with.

Michael

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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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ok thanks
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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thanks Anthony..i went to that link location and now my goofs are down to 2 from 6 ..i will save that link for future cleanups
thanks again
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Last edited on 23rd Nov, 2009 02:34
hi maurice
the link you provided doesn't want to work.i went to ms and did a disk cleanup..thanks
OOPS!
actually it's the link secunia originally sent to me. it's the same link you sent..just noticed that.
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Anthony Wells RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Hello VOXPOP

If the MS clean up advice has got rid of 4 problems from Windows.old , that's great .

However , if the remaining 2 "insecure" programmes showing in PSI are Flash and Java , then they really could be insecure and a potential danger - again dependent on location .

As Maurice Joyce mentioned earlier , you should post their "installation path(s)" on here if you need further help in "cleaning up".

Take care
Anthony

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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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hi
the 2 remaining were foxit reader which i updated and the other was media player CLASSIC which i deleted.
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Anthony Wells RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Sounds good .

If you want the up to date Media Player Classic - Home Cinema you can get it in the K-Lite Codec Pack . The Pack updates regularly , so I find it easier than going to Source Forge .

PSI may not detect MPC , so you may need to "suggest" an installation path to Secunia.

Take care
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VOXPOP RE: OUTDATED PROGRAMS
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Actually i never used the CLASSIC but i'm a compulsive downloader which is the key to my computer downfall; but i will save your info in case i get the urge again..thanks for all your help
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