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Nebuchadnezzar1 Insecure program
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Last edited on 22nd Jun, 2010 22:14

Hello,
I turned on my laptop and was greeted with a message saying that the above program represented a security threat. However, after I opened my Java control panel and hit the Update Now button therein, I received a message saying that I had the most recent version of this program meaning no further updates were necessary. I rescanned my computer and I'm still being told that this program is insecure. I even restarted my computer to see if that would fix this problem. It did not. I also visited www.javatester.org/version.html to see what version of Java I had, and it only confirmed what the Java control panel said. Of course I could simply download the update/solution, but again why would I do that when I'm getting messages that I don't have to? Any ideas as to what else I can do?

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Maurice Joyce RE: Insecure program
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U perhaps have more than one install. Go to Control Panel>add/remove and uninstall any JAVA(TM),JSE,JDK or JRE entries U see except for JAVA(TM) 6 Update 20

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Nebuchadnezzar1 RE: Insecure program
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Hi Maurice,
You are correct. I do have more than 1 Java program. I have Java TM 6 Update 18. However, I have run into another problem. As you may have surmised I am the system administrator for my computer, yet when I tried to uninstall the older Java version,I got a message saying "The system administrator has set policies to prevent this installation." Of course, I'm like "Huh?! I am the system administrator!" Also what "installation" is the computer talking about? I'm trying to UNINSTALL the program. After I clicked OK in that box, I was taken back to the Uninstall or Change a Program page on Control Panel and saw another message that said, "You do not have sufficient access to uninstall Java TM 6 Update 18. Please contact your system administrator." How do I check what these policies are, and more importantly how do I change them to allow uninstalling of programs?

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Maurice Joyce RE: Insecure program
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I assume U are running Vista. This sounds very much like UAC has kicked in.

I use Windows 7 & an XP Test bed PC so cannot give a step by step guide to get it working.

@wr trawls this Forum who uses Vista. Perhaps he will chip in to guide U.

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ddmarshall RE: Insecure program
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Oracle advise using the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility if Java will not uninstall:
http://www.java.com/en/download/help/uninstall_jav...

If you decide to use this, the file that Secunia is detecting will not necessarily be removed. In this case you would have to delete it yourself.

I think the error you are getting is related to 'Group Policy'. Unfortunately, the group policy editor is not included in the Home versions of Windows. It looks like something went wrong with an earlier update of Java.

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wr RE: Insecure program
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Hi all

Sounds like the UAC in Vista is doing its job. I hate
that thing so shortly after buying this system & getting
rid of most all the 'crapware' & installing my firewall,
A/V , etc. I turned UAC off.

Not suggesting you do this but that is probably what's
blocking you-you really aren't the administrator, UAC is. The
way UAC 'protects' your computer from other users & malicious
programs is to deny administrator rights. The way (normally)
around this is to right click either the program or shortcut
icon & choose Run as administrator. Some old programs
have to be run in 'compatibility' mode (XP, 2000, etc.)
before this works.

Hope this helps.

Regards, wr


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Nebuchadnezzar1 RE: Insecure program
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Hi wr,
Well, I turned off UAC, and was able to uninstall the older version of Java successfully. I know you didn't recommend that, but I tried to right click and Run as Administrator as you suggested and got nowhere. I turned UAC back on, rescanned my computer and was given a clean bill of health! 100%. Thank you for your help.

Have a good day

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If you think twice before speaking once, you will speak twice the better for it.”

Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great ones make you feel that you too can become great.”

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wr RE: Insecure program
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Hi Nebuchadnezzer1

Sometimes going to plan 'B' works better than plan 'A'.
You're very welcome & glad to know suggestion helped.
Now at least you know that you can disable to 'fix' a
problem then re-enable UAC to keep your security tight.

As you are the original poster of this thread would you
please press the ACCEPT button so we won't
be receiving unnecessary update emails.

Thank you & regards.

wr


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