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bellefortuna New User/Questions
Member 13th Jul, 2010 19:37
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If I am in the wrong place, just tell me where to go.
I run Windows XP, however, I go online exclusively with Firefox.
I had no problem running the OSI scan, and it did come up with vulnerabilites,
but these are in programs I never use.

So should I delete AIM ? (I know, shocking, but some of us do not chat !)
and should I also delete IE ? even though it came up as not being vulnerable,
I just have never opened it on this computer to check.


And in a related question, I also use a Netbook with Windows XP.. there I do use IE
but only 7. Yet the PSI scanner didn't tell me to upgrade ?

One of my Gmail accounts was recently hacked from Viet Nam and so, obviously, I want to make sure I am as secure as possible. And of course my bank is telling me one of my machines is Insecure and I should upgrade...

I suppose my question is, if you Never use it but leave it in your machine, are you vulnerable ? And therefore, should you remove it ?

I Use ESET and Malwarebytes on the firefox PC. And free Avast and Malwarebytes on the Netbook
Thanks in advance.

bf

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mogs RE: New User/Questions
Expert Contributor 13th Jul, 2010 20:35
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Last edited on 13th Jul, 2010 20:36
Hello and welcome.
In the right place for now, but you may need to go in other directions.
If you look left, you'll see (in blue ) different sections of the forum....amongst them, separate headings for OSI and PSI. Avoid Vulnerabilities till later perhaps.
Secunia detects vulnerabilities....the choice is yours what you do with any info advice....generally tho', the more updated you can keep your progs/set up; the less vulnerable it/they are.
IE is an integral component of Windows and cannot be removed.
PSI requires IE to be configured to work properly: see FAQ's and particularly note (3) at :- http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal...
How it works....explanation here :-http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal...

Worth having a read perhaps first, before looking at specific insecurities again.
If you never update a program you are vulnerable.
Hope the foregoing is of some help. Regards

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thedillpickl RE: New User/Questions
Contributor 13th Jul, 2010 21:52
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Hi bf & mogs;

As said, your OK in the "Open Discussions" because you're asking general questions and discussing things. When you have a specific question, then go to the specific part of the forum for that question.

Thank you for giving us your OS, Browser & saying that you're using OSI. That always cuts down on confusion.

Programs that are 'never' used have a nasty way of being accessed by other programs unintentionally. The AIM instant messenger for example, I would be cautious with. Although unlikely, if a hacker did gain access through AIM, because it was vulnerable, it will be to late to worry, the damage will be done. If AIM is not used, I'd remove it.

As far as I know, IE7 is not receiving security updates from MS. To be sure, I would update to IE8 and install all patches. I do not know why PSI (using on the Netbook?) would not show IE7 as insecure. Never the less, whether using IE for your regular browser or just to get to MS Updates (required by MS) you should have the latest version.

To sum it up: If you don't use it & never intend to, loose it. If even occasionally used or a 'paid for it' program that there is a chance of use, update it.

Mogs provided two very useful links.

If you'd like to discuss the browser insecurities or the banks problem with one of your computers, please start a new thread. If you start a different discussion here others will not be as likely to get involved and you will not be receiving all the help available. If clarification is need by either mogs of myself, by all means come back to this thread.


Regards;

Fred

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ddmarshall RE: New User/Questions
Dedicated Contributor 13th Jul, 2010 22:14
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If there's a program that you never use and never will use, it's advisable to uninstall it. It will save you the work of keeping it upto date and some disk space. There's always a chance that a vulnerable program will be exploited in some way.

Secunia notifies you of programs that need patching for security vulnerabilities or which are no longer supported (end-of-life). It does not notify of new releases which add features or fix non-security bugs. Microsoft still supports Internet Explorer 7 (and 6), so Secunia just checks you've got it upto date. Internet Explorer 8 has features which make it more secure to use than the earlier versions. For example, it uses DEP by default if your hardware will support it. However, some of the new features are not implemented in XP, so you will not gain that much by updating.

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thedillpickl RE: New User/Questions
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on 13th Jul, 2010 22:14, ddmarshall wrote:
... Microsoft still supports Internet Explorer 7 (and 6)...


Thanks ddmarshall;

I was unsure if MS still supported older versions of IE. Verification from MS wasn't easy for me to find.

Again, thank you for 'knowing'.


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hello sir please help me..
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bellefortuna RE: New User/Questions
Member 14th Jul, 2010 16:10
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 16:24
Thanks everyone for your input and sharing your knowledge. :)
I used OSI I think on the netbook, PSI on the other computer.
I have also shared the link to the scans with my email contacts.

And I am pretty sure I have done all things required. Time will tell.
And I will take any other questions to the proper forum.

I appreciate this service very much.
And now, I will look for the way to lock the thread.
Hopefully my questions were rattling around in someone else's head too !
And if someone would kindly point me to the Lock this thread location, I will do it. :)
BF
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taffy078 RE: New User/Questions
Contributor 14th Jul, 2010 17:20
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 17:22
great news BF! And thank you from me to those who helped you. I've gained from what you all said.

To lock the thread, press 'Accept' on the post that you feel helped you most. If you feel they were all equally helpful, do nothing and Secunia will close it.

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thedillpickl RE: New User/Questions
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Hi BF;

Very good to hear you are satisfied. It's nice to know that the info was found useful. You are always welcome.


Fred

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