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taffy078 Members posting the same post twice
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 17:33

Hi.

There have been several examples recently of a member posting the same post twice e.g.

http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/475...

http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/470...

I know that Mogs had the same problem too - can't find it though at the moment.

In each case, they have received a negative score, usually -3, or more.

(1) Is this fair? Do we really need to negatively score a post in these circumstances, especially if the poster is new?

(2) More to the point, we should try to help avoid this happening again so has anyone any idea what can cause this?

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Leendert Kip Members posting the same post twice
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No, it's not fair to get a negative score when a duplicate post wasn't made
intentionally. I haven't experienced that one of my posts was duplicated.
Is it possible that it's caused by clicking twice on 'reply' when finishing an
answer? Maybe something to investigate by Secunia staff?

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gjjean RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Hi taffy078 & leendert kip

I want to thank you for your sympathy.

1-Like Leendert Kip says: it was a 2 clicks by mistake.

2-Iím not worry about the score cause when I give an adequate answer for a question most I hope is solving the problem of a member and thatís when Iím satisfied.

3-Leendert have a score of (-78) is he complaining?

4-Just like you two, waiting for response.

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thedillpickl RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Hi All;

Two thoughts and some advise:

> Limit the amount of 'clicks' accepted by the "Reply" button to one (there is no reason for it to accept more).

> Add a "Delete" button under the post, just as the "Edit" button, that is available to the originator, until a new post occurs.

I have done the double click before and it is embarrassing. The only advise would be to take advantage of that "Edit" button to remove the duplicate post. You can't remove all text, so input the words "Sorry!" or "Pardon me!". At least people will know it was unintentional.


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Leendert Kip Members posting the same post twice
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Leendert have a score of (-78) is he complaining?

No, not at all! One of the Secunia staff people 'confessed' that he made a mistake causing the negative score. There is no option to make corrections
in the score. For me totally unimportant!


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Anthony Wells RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 20:26
Hi LK ,

I checked that out for you a little while ago and had the same reply . Still , we could get everyone to give you maximum points every time you post ; that would only be fair , if not , as you say , totally irrelevant ;))

Take care
Anthony

+6 to get you started :))

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thedillpickl RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Hi Leendert Kip;

I completely agree.

The only benefit to be gained in a change of color or a ranking score is that newbies will "feel" better about taking our advice.

I look more closely as the system score (glad to see you're at 100%), because if the guy/gal can't keep their system updated, why should I listen to them? Also important is how long they have been a user of PSI and somewhat important, how many posts have they made. These are more 'relevant' to me than 'vanity' points.

I am still concerned that an inexperienced user will get zapped and leave in disgust. Their loss and ours.

Finally, not to pick on Secunia (but...), your "Score" is only bits on a hard drive somewhere in Denmark. I find it hard to believe that can''t be changed.


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taffy078 RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Re Leendert's score:

according to

http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/372...

"Special titles:
Title: Secunia Official
Badge color: Secunia Red
Vote Power: 1-100
Ability to administrate threads"

No problem?

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Leendert Kip Members posting the same post twice
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[quote=p22627]we could get everyone to give you maximum points every time you post ; that would only be fair , if not , as you say , totally irrelevant ;))

OK, but colours and ranks are totally irrelevant for me! For me the pleasure
to help others is just fine. And, when I have problems now and then, others
help me. Up to now all problems I experienced were solved. That's where we
are here for!


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taffy078 RE: Members posting the same post twice
Contributor 14th Jul, 2010 22:16
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If there is a long delay when the poster hits "Reply", and the poster hits "Reply" again, would this really cause the double post?

Mogs - didn't you once post the same post five times? How did you manage that, laddie? [Or should I say boyo? ;0) ]

Some great comments though. Thanks.

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thedillpickl RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 23:34
@ Leendert Kip, repeating, I completely agree.

@ Taff, thanks for the link. I had no idea they have a "Statistics" page. And I'm on it!?! Listed right above Morten, who is number ten.

Looking at the 'statistics', I would list ddmarshall as number one, as his score to post ratio is currently 1:1 . A score of 191 in only 190 posts. He obviously doesn't goof off like me! I'm like 1:5 .

Oops, I'm comparing numbers, aren't I?


Fred

p.s. Timow is a close second.

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thedillpickl RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Last edited on 14th Jul, 2010 23:53
@ Leendert Kip, it looks like you're trying to quote people on a couple of threads, including this one. When trying to edit unnecessary info from a quote, as above you have "[quote=p22627]we could get everyone..." but seem to have edited out the "[/quotie]"* at the end. Both [...]'s must be present for the little gray box to appear and proper credit for the quote to be given.

*Had to intentionally misspell quote.


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mogs RE: Members posting the same post twice
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Mogs - didn't you once post the same post five times? How did you manage that, laddie? [Or should I say boyo? ;0) ]

I do remember the instance to some extent.....wasn't it when there'd been an upgrade of versions, and there was some kind of bug when replying? Wasn't that when Anthony suggested Copy/Paste before hitting the button? I think it was Maurice that rectified the situation by negative/positive scoring that time....taking the excess out of veiw.
I think it might be better if new members were at least given a starter for ten....some may be much more easily put off than our saintly Leendert ! It might actually cause some crisis of confidence in somebody....at a time when they need some encouragement to prevail. I also think that to squash someone flat without the accompaniment of a valid reason is tantamount to "dangerous driving"!!!! At the same time we're seeing more irrelevant threads originating which are'nt easily got shot of !!!!

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Leendert Kip Members posting the same post twice
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on 14th Jul, 2010 23:48, thedillpickl wrote:
@ Leendert Kip, it looks like you're trying to quote people on a couple of threads, including this one. Fred


OK, thank you for this remark!


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Member 15th Jul, 2010 08:58
Hi,

I've filed a bug report for the issue, so we can hopefully prevent it from reoccuring. Our developers will look into a solution when possible. In the mean time, we do minimize posts, but typically award the same amount of points to the other posts to even it all out. Again, thanks for caring about the quality of our forum.

@Leendert
The job to reset your score was forwarded some time ago. I've given you back your points by voting to your first post to this thread. I'm sorry for the delay, I simply thought this has already been reversed (As someone noted, it is just bits on our server ;)

hope this helps.
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Leendert Kip RE: Members posting the same post twice
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on 15th Jul, 2010 08:58, wrote:
@Leendert The job to reset your score was forwarded some time ago. I've given you back your points by voting to your first post to this thread.

I knew somebody was working on the subject and I was'n't worried at all.
Thanks!


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