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Forum Thread: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x

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CheeseKing More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
Member 23rd Sep, 2010 04:29
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Every time Adobe puts out a new version of their Flash player I cringe at what I am going to have to do to make it non-vulnerable again. This time Secunia lists...

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx
C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx

...as being insecure. Last time it was "Flash10h.ocx" in my SysWOW64 and System32 folders that were listed as insecure. Can I safely delete these wretched little files, or are they needed? If they are needed, what must I do to secure them? I do so hate Adobe products, but Flash is a necessity for some sites.

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wr RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
Contributor 23rd Sep, 2010 07:02
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Here goes: First go here & download AFP for IE & for (Non-IE)
Firefox, Chrome, & etc. http://www.filehippo.com/ Save these downloads where you can
easily find them for installation. Close all instances
that might be using Flash Player (browsers, instant messaging, PSI, etc.)

Next using the PSI in the Advanced Mode go to Insecure>click [+]
beside the AFP program listing> in the Toolbox that opens >click
Open Folder & find the folder 10i.ocx>right click & choose delete.
If using more than 1 browser do this for each listing, i.e.
NPAPI is for all browser(s) except IE that uses ActiveX so all must
be deleted to completely rid the system. Reboot--be sure to REBOOT to make sure all ocx files are cleared out.

Now install the new Flash Player programs one at a time. After
all are installed reboot (this is Windoze so a reboot is- IMO- always
necessary to make the change(s) complete). Now you should do a
full system scan with the PSI & hopefully all has gone well.

These directions are for PSI v. 1.5.0.2

Hope this helps.

Regards, wr

PS: Adobe does have a Uninstaller for Flash Player but it
doesn't seem to work very well at this time. That's why I
gave directions for the manual uninstall.

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TiMow RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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Last edited on 23rd Sep, 2010 07:14
C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx
C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx

These are the old .ocx files (ActiveX component), the same as you had previously - the letter progresses alphabetically with each update (although "j" has been jumped). They are not removed when you uninstall flash and/or update, if all programs that use flash aren't first exited - browsers, W. Messenger, PSI 1.5.0.2 (and earlier) - PSI is exited from tray icon.

Navigate to the respective file locations, using Windows Explorer or PSI Open Folder and look for the icon for Flash10i.ocx (on r.h.s.) in each instance and delete (highlight, right click). The latest update should have installed Flash10k.ocx (ActiveX Control), which should in both cases be also present and left alone (until next update!).

Re-boot and re-scan PSI.

TiMow

EDIT: crossed post with @wr (Hi wr- are you up late or am I early?)

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wr RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
Contributor 23rd Sep, 2010 07:20
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Hi TiMow

That statement probably qualifies as 6 of one , half dozen of another. I was trying to EDIT (delete) the instruction to
close all browser(s), PSI, etc. but it didn't take.

In all seriousness going beddy-bye now as it's almost 1:30 AM EDST here. & CheeseKing is in very capable hands.

Take care & good to hear from you.
Regards, wr

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CheeseKing RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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Thank you, my friends. It's a bit late, and so I'm going to bed. But I will try all this tomorrow (hopefully, if I have time) and get back with you.

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TiMow RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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@CheeseKing

It should all be relatively straight forward (you've done it before(?)). @wr is in the same time zone (give or take 3 hrs.) and if you need further assistance (and he's "around"), he'll be best placed to help.

One small observation - your system score (l.h.s. of forum post), still shows 100%, despite this current hiccup.

@wr - sorry I cut off your edit in it's prime - but I think between us, we've covered all bases. Wish you well.

TiMow

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Member 23rd Sep, 2010 09:20
Hi,

The newer Adobe Flash installers should remove older versions of the controls, unless some application is write-locking them. This can include browsers and other software that uses Flash for graphics - Including the PSI in versions prior to 2.0.

To update Flash successfully, first close every application using Flash, and then run the flash installer. If this does not remove all instances of Flash on your system, you can try Adobe's own Flash unistaller before installing the newest version. You can find that here: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html

hope this helps.
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LindaClaudine RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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Last edited on 23rd Sep, 2010 16:05
I did exactly what Secunia told me to do (as reiiterated in above msg by Secunia official) and I have none of the old files y'all are mentioning. (One problem: when ALL programs using IE were closed, the uninstall pgm insisted that was not so, so I had to reboot. I think because I had used IE in that session, there was some part of it holding on: that darn Microsoft). This is on my Dell running XP Professional, SP3, with browser: IE 8, optimized for my ISP. Of course, Flash is not located in the directory named by someone above (I have no such directory), but Secunia shows me where any of my pgms are located. Don't know if this clarifies anything, but I feel better knowing I'm not the only one who spends hours working on probs. and often making things worse, then fixing them back, and then back where I started. That is why I bought a Mac. I am only on this as my ISP has not provided me with correct connection for my time capsule and macpro. What a life. I will miss Secunia when on Mac.

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TiMow RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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@Linda

On reading your post, 2 things come to mind:

1) One of the most common problems with updating Flash (ActiveX), is PSI itself - as this uses flash for the graphics, it too has to be exited - and can only be done so from the taskbar tray icon - many people, unfortunately, don't realise, or overlook this;
and
2) If you're referring to the file locations (from above), as follows:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx
C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10i.ocx

The second one is probably the same as you have, but you don't recognise the first because it relates to a 64 bit OS.

TiMow

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CheeseKing RE: More problems with Adobe Flash 10x
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Excellent! They read as patched, now. I didn't realize that Secunia PSI used Flash and so, I didn't exit it before installing. Now those files are gone. Thanks to everyone involved in this topic.

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