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BBSecunia Updating Adobe Flash manually
Member 26th Sep, 2010 21:26
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For those who have had trouble with clean updates of Adobe Flash, as I have had in the past. I have found this procedure is very effective, I hope this might help anyone who has problems with Adobe Flash.

I also run a cleanup on my machine and a defrag before I start this routine.

When an update is announced by Adobe or Secunia . I immediately go to the Adobe Site and download to my desktop the current removal tool for Flash and the newest Flash Version.

Then I disconnect from the net completely by shutting off my DSL. I exit or shut down every running program or application. I close, exit, idle, or what term applies to each program on my taskbar, including PSI, AV and Firewall and I double check task manager, just to be sure I got everything.

That leaves only my desktop. I click on the uninstaller sitting on the desktop, run it, then restart my machine.

I usually do this whole procedure twice, just in case.

Still disconnected from the net completely. I again make sure that every running program or application is shut down. I close, exit, idle, or what term applies to each program on my taskbar, including PSI, AV and Firewall and I double check task manager, just to be sure I got everything.

I click on the Flash Installer on the desktop, run it, then restart my machine.

I turn on all my programs, beginning with my firewall, AV and keep going until I am back with everything I use up and running.

Then I turn on my DSL and reconnect to the net, Check to be sure all my programs are running. Then go to the Adobe Site and check to see that my install of the new version is good.

Then I run another Secunia PSI scan. This is a lot of trouble, but it seems to be the only way to make certain this pain in the neck Flash doesn't foul up my computer.

I wish there was a way to turn Flash on and off. There are just a few places where I unfortunately MUST use Adobe Products. The rest of the time I'd like to leave it idle. Keeping Adobe Acrobat, Shockwave etc out of my computer com is something I keep on top of.

Also wish there was a secure alternative pdf reader. Any suggestions would be appreciated on these issues., that could be turned on an off, for use only when I needed it.

I have been running XP, and just got a Win7 64 bit... so I suppose it will be a learning experience also.




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mogs RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Last edited on 26th Sep, 2010 21:50
Hello.
You might find the article of interest referred to/link provided, in this extract from last month's CYBERCLIPS thread :-


mogs
CClip 66 Adobe Reader alternatives
Ditch the malware magnet

A sysadmin battles his nemesis
By Trevor Pott • Get more from this author

Posted in Desktop Management, 6th August 2010 09:13 GMT

"If you must use Adobe Reader, take the time to secure it. To do this, open the application and choose Edit and then Preferences. You will see several different categories of options to tweak. Under JavaScript a checkbox disables Adobe Reader’s ability to run dangerous JavaScript from a PDF. Under Security (Enhanced), another checkbox helps to secure the application. The Trust Manager category allows you to disable Acrobat’s ability to call external applications to handle non-PDF files - a setting change I heartily recommend."

"Regardless of which PDF application you choose, avoid Adobe: it simply isn’t worth the risk to keep this malware magnet around. ®"

Read the whole article and see alternatives at :-
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/06/sysadmin_m...

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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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There are plenty of good PDF readers - see this thread:

http://secunia.com/community/forum/thread/show/417...

Flash is also very easy to update manually. Provided U exit from these programmes the new install will remove all the old version.

ALL browsers.
ALL Adobe Products.
Messenger.
Incredimail
PSI (except V2 BETA).

I would not recommend using the Adobe download site either. They use a useless Download Manager (DLM) by a Company called NOS.

Sites that do not use the DLM are here:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_ie/
or here:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

& then here if U have any Gecko based (Firefox etc) browsers.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_fire...
or here:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

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ddmarshall RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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I was doing a reinstall yesterday and noticed that FileHippo was downloading from the Adobe site. I hadn't noticed that before. It was painfully slow compared to what I've experienced from FileHippo previously. I gave up and used the download manager! At least it got into the kilobytes per second range.

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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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If U use this Adobe site it does not have the manager.

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...



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BBSecunia RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Hello,
Thank you very much for the excellent and specific tips... I really appreciate the help. I am glad to have the information!
This is one outfit I wish I could avoid entirely, but am stuck for now. Your detailed suggestions on security are great. Thanks again. I hope I did this right thank you correctly....
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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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This is my normal answer to those with Flash problems. If U have problems in the future just click MY THREATS on the left hand side & there will be a permanent reminder for U under your name.

UPDATING STANDALONE ADOBE FLASH - ALL PSI VERSIONS EXCEPT PSI VERSION 2 (BETA)

Works with Windows XP,Vista & Windows 7 - 32 & 64 Bit systems.
If using Internet Explorer 9 BETA scroll to the bottom for more detail

If U have PSI version 2 (Beta) installed have U tried the auto update feature?
The download link and details are here:

http://secunia.com/PSI2SetupBeta.exe

OR

To successfully install Adobe Flash without the USELESS Adobe Download Manager go here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_ie/
or here:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

& then here if U have any Gecko based (Firefox etc) browsers.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_fire...
or here:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

The latest version is:10.1.85.3

1. Download & SAVE it to desktop.
2. The installer will appear on the desk top. THE IMPORTANT BIT - Before agreeing to install check these programmes are completely shut down (use the Task Manager if necessary to COMPLETELY EXIT the running process):
a. All Browsers.
b. Windows Messenger.
c. Incredimail.
d. Adobe Free Reader.
e. PSI


3. The new install will then remove all old files during the update process.
4. Complete a PSI rescan & all should be in order.
5. Delete the Flash installer from the desktop.

POSSIBLE PROBLEMS.
++++++++++++++++++

If U failed to complete 2. above U may well find PSI still shows a vulnerability on the rescan.

SOLUTION

1. Double check all items listed in 2. above are COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN:
2. Navigate to:
32 Bit Systems - C:\Windows\system32\Macromedia\Flash
64 Bit Systems - C:\Windows\sysWOW64\Macromedia\Flash

In these locations U may well find these entries:
FLASH10h or i.OCX - Right click & delete it/them.
FLASH10k.OCX - The latest version which should be retained.


SOLUTION 2

1. Check the path to the vulnerability.

If PSI has found elements of Flash in the C:\i386 folder or on any drive other than C that is an OEM reinstallation partition (normally D drive) or a drive U use solely to backup your work U can safely create an ignore rule. It may also be in the Recycle Bin.

OPTIONAL EXTRA'S
++++++++++++++++

Security. (Fairly important if U care to check what Adobe attempt to store on a PC)
Adobe also have a very bad habit of changing your Flash settings each time they plug vulnerabilities. To change the security settings to your liking & regain control of your PC click here:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en...

Click each tab U see & change the settings to your security requirements.

Bloat ware.(Very important if U dislike totally useless programmes installed on your PC)
If you used the Adobe site, rather than FileHippo to update you will also find they try or have installed an unnecessary Download Manager.

It is bloat ware by a third party Company called NOS. If found I would uninstall it via Add/Remove.

IE 9 BETA

If using this browser U need to check this web page:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

In essence,U must remove all old versions of Flash prior to installing the new one.
Uninstall using this tool:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html

Now return to here:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

U will see the option to install both the 32 & 64 Bit versions of Flash.

PSI will pick it up as patched - version number 10.2.161.22. The OCX file is J.


If this post has solved your problem could you please select the ACCEPT option. This will lock the thread and stop you & I from receiving unnecessary update emails.

Update 19 10:40 26/09/2010



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ddmarshall RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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@Maurice

That's where FileHippo downloaded from. Less than 100 bytes per second on Saturday evening.

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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Thank U. Just done a Save to desktop. Took 3 seconds - must have been a server problem.

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runrig RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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PSI will pick it up as patched - version number 10.2.161.22.
err, no, not if you are using IE9Beta and the installed "square" Flash, as it is also Beta, I do not see PSI saying anything about them on my system.

Nice instructions though. :)

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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Something odd with your set up then. The 32Bit version shows up loud & clear.

The 64 Bit does not because I suspect no one has suggested it to Secunia - not sure they would include it anyway because it is BETA which they do not normally track except, in my case for PSI V2/Windows Messenger & Live elements.

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Anthony Wells RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Last edited on 27th Sep, 2010 12:36
Hello all ,

The dirct Adobe links posted By Maurice Joyce are not working for me in Google Chrome browser .

Here is a link to a webpage which contains the active links that do work for me :-

http://www.404techsupport.com/2010/04/27/download-...

This site checks "clean" for me ; but check it yourself to be sure .

Hope tis helps .

Anthony

EDIT : Here are the links , see if they work :-

ActiveX for IE :-

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

NPAPI for gecko's :-

http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...

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runrig RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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on 27th Sep, 2010 11:48, Maurice Joyce wrote:
Something odd with your set up then. The 32Bit version shows up loud & clear.

The 64 Bit does not because I suspect no one has suggested it to Secunia - not sure they would include it anyway because it is BETA which they do not normally track except, in my case for PSI V2/Windows Messenger & Live elements.

ah, yes, forgot to mention I'm 64bit

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Maurice Joyce RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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@BBSecunia

It appears 3 of my hyperlinks on my post for U are not working. This is a rewrite where all the links work:

UPDATING STANDALONE ADOBE FLASH - ALL PSI VERSIONS EXCEPT PSI VERSION 2 (BETA)

Works with Windows XP,Vista & Windows 7 - 32 & 64 Bit systems.
If using Internet Explorer 9 BETA scroll to the bottom for more detail

If U have PSI version 2 (Beta) installed have U tried the auto update feature?
The download link and details are here:

http://secunia.com/PSI2SetupBeta.exe

OR

To successfully install Adobe Flash without the USELESS Adobe Download Manager go here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_ie/

& then here if U have any Gecko based (Firefox etc) browsers.

http://www.filehippo.com/download_flashplayer_fire...

The latest version is:10.1.85.3

1. Download & SAVE it to desktop.
2. The installer will appear on the desk top. THE IMPORTANT BIT - Before agreeing to install check these programmes are completely shut down (use the Task Manager if necessary to COMPLETELY EXIT the running process):
a. All Browsers.
b. Windows Messenger.
c. Incredimail.
d. Adobe Free Reader.
e. PSI


3. The new install will then remove all old files during the update process.
4. Complete a PSI rescan & all should be in order.
5. Delete the Flash installer from the desktop.

POSSIBLE PROBLEMS.
++++++++++++++++++

If U failed to complete 2. above U may well find PSI still shows a vulnerability on the rescan.

SOLUTION

1. Double check all items listed in 2. above are COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN:
2. Navigate to:
32 Bit Systems - C:\Windows\system32\Macromedia\Flash
64 Bit Systems - C:\Windows\sysWOW64\Macromedia\Flash

In these locations U may well find these entries:
FLASH10h or i.OCX - Right click & delete it/them.
FLASH10k.OCX - The latest version which should be retained.


SOLUTION 2

1. Check the path to the vulnerability.

If PSI has found elements of Flash in the C:\i386 folder or on any drive other than C that is an OEM reinstallation partition (normally D drive) or a drive U use solely to backup your work U can safely create an ignore rule. It may also be in the Recycle Bin.

OPTIONAL EXTRA'S
++++++++++++++++

Security. (Fairly important if U care to check what Adobe attempt to store on a PC)
Adobe also have a very bad habit of changing your Flash settings each time they plug vulnerabilities. To change the security settings to your liking & regain control of your PC click here:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en...

Click each tab U see & change the settings to your security requirements.

Bloat ware.(Very important if U dislike totally useless programmes installed on your PC)
If you used the Adobe site, rather than FileHippo to update you will also find they try or have installed an unnecessary Download Manager.

It is bloat ware by a third party Company called NOS. If found I would uninstall it via Add/Remove.

IE 9 BETA

If using this browser U need to check this web page:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

In essence,U must remove all old versions of Flash prior to installing the new one.
Uninstall using this tool:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/141/tn_14157.html

Now return to here:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

U will see the option to install both the 32 & 64 Bit versions of Flash.

PSI will pick it up as patched - version number 10.2.161.22. The OCX file is J.


If this post has solved your problem could you please select the ACCEPT option. This will lock the thread and stop you & I from receiving unnecessary update emails.

Update 20 16:32 27/09/2010



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AdamFeldman RE: Updating Adobe Flash manually
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Better solution:


For Internet Explorer:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...
For other browsers:
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/curren...


Avoid useless other mirrors, directly from Adobe, and is guaranteed to be be the most up to date.
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