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f_stytzle Statistics with errors
Member 14th Oct, 2010 18:22
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Breaking down the German results I'm getting following numbers:

Oct 14th, 2010 18:13 MEZ

Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
Average Secunia System Score: 94%
Average Patched Programs: 260
Average Insecure Programs: 4
Average EOL Programs: 1

Thüringen
Average Secunia System Score: 95%
Average Patched Programs: 127
Average Insecure Programs: 16
Average EOL Programs: 1

Obviously those numbers don't fit together so you can hardly trust them.

Regards

Franz

mogs RE: Statistics with errors
Expert Contributor 14th Oct, 2010 18:34
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They're different regions....so different results.
Data Table for: World > Europe > Germany
Name 31 days ago 7 days ago 1 day ago 1 hour ago Now
1. Brandenburg (-0.15%) 95.09% (-0.53%) 95.47% (+0.47%) 94.47% (-0.02%) 94.96% 94.94%
2. Saarland (-0.45%) 95.26% (-0.70%) 95.51% (+0.29%) 94.52% (-0.01%) 94.82% 94.81%
3. Thuringen (-0.60%) 95.10% (-0.33%) 94.83% (+0.28%) 94.22% (+0.04%) 94.46% 94.50%
4. Bremen (-0.42%) 94.90% (-0.59%) 95.07% (+0.28%) 94.20% (-0.14%) 94.62% 94.48%
5. Berlin (-0.54%) 94.99% (-0.53%) 94.98% (+0.21%) 94.24% (-0.05%) 94.50% 94.45%
6. Mecklenburg-vorpommern (-0.42%) 94.82% (-0.60%) 95.00% (+0.28%) 94.12% (+0.03%) 94.37% 94.40%
7. Sachsen (-0.53%) 94.88% (-0.36%) 94.71% (+0.04%) 94.31% (-0.06%) 94.41% 94.35%
8. Bayern (-0.57%) 94.85% (-0.53%) 94.81% (+0.17%) 94.11% (-0.03%) 94.31% 94.28%
9. Hamburg (-0.76%) 95.04% (-0.65%) 94.93% (+0.15%) 94.13% (-0.09%) 94.37% 94.28%
10. Hessen (-0.39%) 94.66% (-0.40%) 94.67% (+0.31%) 93.96% (-0.05%) 94.32% 94.27%
11. Sachsen-anhalt (-0.81%) 95.07% (-0.67%) 94.93% (-0.03%) 94.29% (-0.11%) 94.37% 94.26%
12. Baden-wÜrttemberg (-0.58%) 94.82% (-0.53%) 94.77% (+0.18%) 94.06% (-0.06%) 94.30% 94.24%
13. Nordrhein-westfalen (-0.63%) 94.85% (-0.48%) 94.70% (+0.19%) 94.03% (-0.04%) 94.26% 94.22%
14. Schleswig-holstein (-0.44%) 94.63% (-0.41%) 94.60% (-0.08%) 94.27% (-0.04%) 94.23% 94.19%
15. Niedersachsen (-0.73%) 94.88% (-0.79%) 94.94% (-0.01%) 94.16% (-0.04%) 94.19% 94.15%
16. Rheinland-pfalz (-0.67%) 94.61% (-0.81%) 94.75% (+0.02%) 93.92% (-0.06%) 94.00% 93.94%

Hope it helps.......regards,

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Anthony Wells RE: Statistics with errors
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Last edited on 14th Oct, 2010 19:34
Not sure that that is Franz's point , Mogs . Ithink it is the N° of "insecure" programmes as a % in Thuringen which sticks out like a sore thumb .

This table might explain as Thuringen seems to have gone "insecure" crazy in the last 24 hours :-

http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal...

If you you look at the full set of data for the 5 reporting choices from the dropdown menu , then you will see other curiosities like Mecklenburg-vorpommern has had a big jump in the past few days concerning patched programmes :-

http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal...

As Disraeli is supposed ** to have said : "There are three kinds of lies : lies , damned lies and statistics" .

Nothing earth shattering , I prefer star gazing :))

Take care

Anthony

NB :**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_Damn_Lies_and_S...

PS : I'm partial to a Riesling Kabinett or a Spatlese from the Rheingau , if that helps .

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f_stytzle RE: Statistics with errors
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Hi,
I still think there is something wrong with the numbers shown.
For instance the region of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern:
with 260 Patched Programs
+ 4 Insecure Programs
+ 1 EOL Program
the System Score should be 98 and not 94.
In fact I do not trust the amount of Patched Programs. This has doubled within 7 days for this region and why should this region have 260 Patched Programs, while the other German regions have an average between 98 and 126?

For region Thüringen it looks a little bit different:
with 127 Patched Programs
+16 Insecure Programs
+ 1 EOL Program
the System Score should be 88 and not 95.
Here I do not trust the number of Insecure Programs. A dramatic increase from 4 to 16 within 1 day is just unbelievable. Again, all other German regions have a value of 4.
Ok, the hole problem is not a big deal at all. Who trusts statistics anyway?
Otherwise I'm very satisfied with 2.0. No problems at all.
Win 7 64 bit.

Regards

Franz
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