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Forum Thread: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation

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thebigguy123 Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
Member 15th Oct, 2010 02:06
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I have tried numerous times to install Windows XP Service Pack 3 with no success on a Toshiba Notebook with XP Service Pack 2 running. My question is: Is my machine expecailly vulnerable without SP 3 installed? Similarly, can I still get Windows Updates without it? Finally, what can I do to get SP3 installed on this machine if I do, in fact, need it to keep the machine secure?

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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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Hi thebigguy123;

Welcome to the Secunia forum.

Please read the "Overview" section here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx...

It says, "Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3) includes all previously released updates for the operating system. This update also includes a small number of new functionalities, which do not significantly change customers’ experience with the operating system.". If you have SP 2 fully updated, it will include the "previously released updates" mentioned above. If I remember correctly, the "small number of new functionalities" are mostly for networking.

To answer your questions:
> Probably not vulnerable. (Others & MS may say it is.)
> Windows Update should function normally.
> Specifically, here are the instructions: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc16420...

Also, this page has links to (almost) every thing you may need: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/bb79471...

If you're still having trouble, post back here.


Regards;

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Maurice Joyce RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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U are indeed EXTREMELY vulnerable without XP SP3 if using the 32 Bit version. (XP 64 Bit has no SP3).

Without SP3 installed U will not receive Security updates from Microsoft via Windows update. See the details in the red box at this site:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/en...

In addition, many new security fixes are reliant on SP3 being installed. If my memory serves me right all security updates for August 2010 required SP3 to be installed. Here is an example of just one:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx...

U should also be aware that Secunia no longer officially supports SP2. This information is available in the User Manual that supports PSI version 2 BETA.

Get SP3 installed as a matter of urgency. U ARE VULNERABLE.



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thedillpickl RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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Hi thebigguy123;

I do apologize to you and anyone reading this thread. Also, many thanks to Maurice for pointing out my error.

It seems MS has implemented forced obsolescence for XP SP2. The MS sites I used to research your problem had no indication of this fact and as I have SP 3 installed, there was no reason for me to follow the PR. It would be nice of MS to update important information on a webpage that is officially telling users how to use their software. :(


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ddmarshall RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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You could try resetting Windows Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

If you've not already tried it, this article gives advice on dealing with several SP3 installation issues:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717

Otherwise, you may have to reset to factory settings or reinstall and try running through all the updates. After backing up all your data, of course.

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thebigguy123 RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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I understand I am vulnerable running Windows Media Center XP (32 bit) with only SP2. Thanks for the responses everyone

I called Toshiba tech support and they suggested using the recovery disks to restore factory settings and then getting all the updates. Of course, first backing up all data. The way Toshiba support described it, all the adding and removing of programs over the last three years has apparently prevented SP3 from installing. They said they did not recommend using MS Fix IT or trying to repair the registry yourself as it could cause a crash during the SP3 installation.
This all confirms my friend's notion that computers are really not ready for prime time yet!

My plan is to configure a new machine purchased today and run the necessary programs over Windows 7. I will then remove any sensitive data from the Windows Media Center XP machine with SP 2 and use it to store pictures, video and audio files and watch movies...so there.

Again, thanks for the help.

thebigguy123

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Maurice Joyce RE: Windows XP Service Pack 3 Installation
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Sounds like a good plan. U may be interested in this as a starter for Windows 7. Saves U trawling through the Control Panel to set up correctly.

Setting Up & Details About GodMode.

Godmode Works with:

1.Windows 7 - 32 & 64 bit systems.
2.Vista 32 Bit. There are reports of problems using it with the 64 bit system so if U want to try it create a Restore Point that U can access from the Safe Mode.
3.IT DOES NOT WORK ON ANY XP PLATFORM.

By using GodMode U have all the Windows tweaks & tasks (264 of them) laid in an easy to read format without the need to open the Control Panel & search around for the task U require completed. The window when open also includes Windows Explorer.


If U want to give it a try the setting up is very easy.

1. RIGHT click anywhere on the DESKTOP.
2. From the drop down box select NEW>FOLDER
3. RIGHT click on the new folder created & select PROPERTIES.
4. In the GENERAL tab U will see a box filled in with NEW FOLDER. Delete it.
5. Copy & Paste this into the same box (details MUST BE exactly as shown):

GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

6. Click OK.

Your desktop should now have a folder called GodMode. Click it & U should find everything U need to know about Windows tweaks & tasks.

Please bear in mind U will still need to access the Control Panel to update Oracle Java or any other third party programme that installs an icon in the Control Panel.

Hope this is useful.

Update 2 19/10/2010

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