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Forum Thread: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't

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bjherbison PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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I used PSI to scan PSI today. It says I have version 2.0.0.3001and it is up-to-date. The change log says there is a .3002 available, so apparently the scan isn't working.

It doesn't make me confident that Secunia can't get the version information right for programs developed by other companies if you can't even figure out when your own program is out-of-date.

mogs RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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Last edited on 20th Apr, 2011 07:46
Hello.
Some people are still using psi 1.5.0.2 version....it is not out of date. Since then, as you can see in the Changelog, there have been quite a few versions and most probably still being used.
The latest version..not shown in the Changelog, as yet, is 2.0.0.3003 and is obtainable from here :-
ftp://ftp.secunia.com/PSISetup.exe

Obviously, there are some technical hitches from time to time, but psi has freely enabled me to keep my computer patched and up to date.
Hope this helps.....regards,

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Member 20th Apr, 2011 10:05
Hi,


The issue with the version numbers has been fixed in the new version: ftp://ftp.secunia.com/PSISetup.exe

Hope this helps.
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Prince_Raziel RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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well, remember, that the Secunia PSI isn't there to have all your programs updated to the newest available versions, but to keep them patched to the most secure versions. if one program has a version 1.1, a version 1.2 and 1.3... lets say the version 1.1 is insecure, the 1.2 is secure.. well, in that case there will be no need for the PSI to update it to the 1.3, because the version 1.2 is already safe and secure.
same thing here..
The PSI doesn't have any security faults, and isn't insecure in any way, which is why the PSI doesn't show the newer versions.
Even though there might be a few intern bug fixes in the newer version, there is no security issue, and therefor the PSI doesn't show it.

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bjherbison RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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Emil, thank you for the reply. I will try the new version.

Mogs:
> Some people are still using psi 1.5.0.2 version....it is not out of date.
Prince Raziel:
> well, remember, that the Secunia PSI isn't there to have all your programs updated to the newest available versions, but to keep them patched to the most secure versions.

I understand these points, but I think they are irrelevant.

The standard usage of the term "up-to-date" is "latest, current". I looked in three different dictionaries and didn't see the definition of "not the latest, but secure".

It's fine for PSI to not update an older version, but it shouldn't use the confusing and inappropriate term "up-to-date" for a version that isn't the latest version.
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Member 20th Apr, 2011 12:42
Hi,

Please refer to: http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal...

hope this helps.
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mogs RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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@bjherbison

It was you who chose the phrase " out of date" in your original post.
My explanation was meant to point out that all the versions are working....I don't come on here to get involved with semantics.
All the versions use the same core detection engine....as far as I know.....so that there is uniformity in the results between one version and another....tho' vendors supply bug fixes/cosmetic enhancement....it is only the security aspects that concern Secunia.
If all your programs are "in date" that will mean they will be secure as far as psi is concerned.....and in some cases you might prefer to install later versions.
It is relevant to your understanding of how psi works and the general comprehension of such on the forum.

Hope the foregoing is clear for you.......regards,


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bjherbison RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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@mogs
on 20th Apr, 2011 12:46, mogs wrote:
It was you who chose the phrase " out of date" in your original post.


Actually, no. It was PSI that displayed the phrase "up-to-date" for a software version that wasn't the latest.
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mogs RE: PSI says PSI is up-to-date when it isn't
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@bjherbison
Okay....lets not argue....without knowing the exact details of the program you got the phrase from.....I'm sure you can now see what it means relative to psi and my explanation....I do hope so. You should feel perhaps a little more confident in the knowledge that Secunia is firmly focussed on your software from a security standpoint.
Hope this helps......regards,

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