Forum Thread: Sygate Personal Firewall

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MinaKate Sygate Personal Firewall
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Secunia warns me that the above Firewall is end-of-life. No direct update is available.
It still seems to be working as it should. Anyone any thoughts on this?
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MinaKate, Sygate has been gobbled up by Symantec ( Norton ) so the only update is to un-install the Sygate firewall and purchase Symantec's firewall but I would rather be banished to live the rest of my days in the Artic with no Internet and 6 months of darkness.

I rely on my hardware router for a firewall but look at theses firewalls:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challeng...
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MinaKate RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Hi, YoKenny,
Thanks for your quick reply. No way would I touch Norton - too much trouble the last time, uninstalling all the bits and pieces.
Guess I may just rely on the Windows XP firewall.
Cheers, MinaKate
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magicool1 RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Hi MinaKate
I did a web search for the best free firewall it came up with one that is head and shoulders above any other. 'COMODO' http://www.comodo.com/ I too have been running Sygate and was very happy with it. However now it has been taken over by Norton I just can't stomach even thinking about rubbing shoulders with them. I'm going with Comodo.
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Tarq57 RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Comodo Firewall is very good. (And free.) Also very good is Online Armour, by Tall Emu. Both can have a bit of a learning curve, particularly if the HIPS-type features are activated. Once learned, they should offer very good security.
I use PCTools Firewall. Very easy to use, solid protection, perhaps not as configurable as some experts would like.
XP (SP2+) is a very good firewall, but does not control outbound. There is a very good (somewhat advanced) tutorial on setting it up here:http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=21...

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VJ RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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I'm with you on Symantec. I purchased NAV 2009 as I had used Norton for years. However, I got a tenacious Trojan on my computer which slipped past Symantec. Symantec had known about this Trojan since summer 2008 but could not automatically remove it. They recommended a removal tool that did not work. I was annoyed, I demanded my money back and got it! I then went for Avast Home Edition, not knowing where to go next for antivirus and a friend loaded on Sygate firewall without my knowing that good old Symantec had got in on the act.

So, I now have Sygate Personal Firewall showing with Secunia as being end of life and without my being able to update it. What to do? You check on the web to see which is best and everyone has a different opinion of the same products. The only thing I feel I can trust is Malwarebytes and Secunia.

Good luck to us all.

Valerie
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Anthony Wells RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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For Valerie ,

I have always trusted the advice given by Ian "Gizmo" Richards ( he is also recently associated with Windows Secrets ) - he outlines his basic approach to computer security & safe browsing in this article ; it's worth a read if you have the time :-

http://www.techsupportalert.com/how-to-secure-your...

If you then visit the rest of his site (click "home" at the top of the article page) , he and his volunteers provide a huge amount of info on what is around that they have tested ; it only covers FREE software - the principle behind the site.

I am doubly grateful to him as my PC came loaded with Norton A/V & he saved me from having to race Yokenny to the Antarctic (it's colder I believe
:-o))

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wr RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Hi Valerie,
I agree 100% with you on Secunia & MBAM-but for what it's worth here's another link you might want to check out-it's for Gizmo Richards @ techsupportalert- I've read a lot of good things here & other places about him, and he does a lot of research for FREE programs that really do work. It will cost you nothing but a few minutes of your time.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-firewall...

Hope you're otherwise having an enjoyable weekend.
Regards, wr

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Anthony Wells RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Wr and I cross posts again - lucky that we tend to agree a lot of the time :-o)))

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Stay away from Comodo:
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/07/comodo-and-ong...
http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2009/07/comodo-still-s...
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VJ RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Dear Anthony Well, WR, and YoKenny

Many many thanks for your kind advice. I shall indeed check the links that you have given me. I hope it is not in geek speak or I shall be non-the-wiser. As for the Arctic, I don't need to go. I'm in the dark half the time anyway as far as IT is concerned. What would I do without people like you to shed a little light on the situation.

I think Secunia perform an amazing service. I wrote some while ago asking just how advanced was their advanced and was given excellent advice. I have got rid of nearly all my security threats and am now 96% clear. Still working on it, I'm afraid. But I don't give up easily. In fact, I don't give up at all! :)

What is this 'Windows Secrets'. Is it a kind of break-away group from MS? I would really like to know.

Best regards to all. Hope you are all having a great weekend wherever you are. Here, in the north of England it has decided to rain. What a surprise! :)

Valerie
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Update:
Owing to the fact that this thread was started last year, things have a way of changing with time. My original posting said I was going with 'COMODO' and I did, but only for a short while. As I found Comodo to be too overpowering. I only had to blink and it would pop-up and ask if it should allow that action! I'm sure there are people out there who think this kind of 'In your face' protection shows it's on the ball. I myself however, being a freeware junkie and as such always downloading software, found it to be a pain. I like a security programme to beaver away quietly in the background and leave me alone. So I got rid of it for a firewall that does just that 'Ashampoo' it's free and it keeps my PC clean, along with...
Avast, Spyware Terminator, Malware Bytes and Ccleaner.
I also use 'Auslogics Disk-Defrag' and 'Auslogics Reg-Cleaner' All freeware.
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Anthony Wells RE: Sygate Personal Firewall
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Hi Valerie ,

Being from the NW myself , you'll be 'orrified t'ear that it's crackin' flags down here on the Med - well , someone has to bear it.:-o))

On your other thread , let Maurice clear up your Office and Flash problems , he's ace at the job , so you are in good hands .

I have never found Gizmo's site too "geeky" & I am resolutely non-techie as can be ; the language is pretty user friendly . He used to have a superb Newsletter , but had to join up with WS , which is not the same thing.

WS try to give "independent" advice to Windows users ; they have a free & a paid weekly Newsletter - it has lots of good info , but does get a bit "geeky" for me , at times ; but then everything has it's learning curve . I think wr might agree on this.

This is the link to their latest Newsletter

http://windowssecrets.com/comp/090716

(= 'ave just checked the link , when you have time scroll right thru' it answers all your questions ??=)
As for what to use on your system , I personally tend to go for what I can understand & what gives me confidence & makes me happy - rather as Gizmo suggests ; I find that if you try one thing at a time , it's easier to decide or change your mind , as you wish .

Let us now how you get on

Take care
Anthony

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Dear Anthony

I have sympathy for your plight, being hemmed in by wine.

I have a 400Gb computer, and a 500Gb Personal Media Drive which I use, as well as many backup DVDs for my programmes. Nothing goes to my PMD without many scans first. I have thousands of music files which I protect avidly. I am one of the few people who do not own a TV!

I used to use Trendmicro Housecall as a scanning device but it kept on finding the same number of 'problems' each time despite clearing them off. I found that a little odd. Someone suggested Panda which I used but, while it found suspicious things, it was not clear that it had actually removed them after I had waited hours for it to complete its work.

I use Malwarebytes for spyware etc and love it. I think it does the job and I am contemplating paying for the version which has Realtime Protection, however, my concern is that it will slow down my machine or conflict with any antivirus I might have now or in the future.

What are your thoughts on all this, please?


Valerie

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on 21st Jul, 2009 11:55, VJ wrote:
and enjoy P2P experiences - hence my using Avast Home Edition!

I use Malwarebytes for spyware etc and love it. I think it does the job and I am contemplating paying for the version which has Realtime Protection, however, my concern is that it will slow down my machine or conflict with any antivirus I might have now or in the future.

What are your thoughts on all this, please?

Enjoy your wine and sun. We all deserve much happiness in life.

Oh, I had heard that some thought the Bajan accent quite Cornish. I lived in Cornwall for years too. However, mine is an ironed out Yorkshire one.

Valerie

Read about the perils of P2P:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/security-center/vi...
http://en.community.dell.com/wikis/spyware_virus/p...

I have Malwarebytes realtime and it does not interfere with avast! nor slow down my systems.

I lost my Geordie accent after living in Canada for many years but I do like the TV show Heartbeat as it reminds me of Durham where I'm from.

Finally sunny here after many days of rain and clouds.
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Dear YoKenny

Thanks for advising me about Malwarebytes. I shall subscribe now to obtain Realtime.



Valerie
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Hello Valerie ,

Just lost my post , so here goes again - I'm going to post in bits and then edit to add more - so please wait for the end !!

Now that you & Maurice have cleaned up , it's on to firewalls (other steps as needed) . As a general comment , I find Gizmo's site balanced & not commercially biased & rerecommend his "Security" article I gave you in an earlier post ;-

http://www.techsupportalert.com/how-to-secure-your...

If you scroll down to the end , he gives within site links to all the different types of software they have looked & may interest you.

I don't know about the UK , but my internet provider "gives" me a "modem" with a "hardware" firewall in it , this is a good thing - see if you have or can get one.

TO replace "sygate" you need a "software" firewall & the "free" ones are assessed you know where. As the latest ones tend to include "HIPS" , you may want to read up on it as it could shape your choice:-

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/hips-expla...

(sorry bad link - this is better)(yes , it is)***

Later on ; to protect yourself from you bad surfing habits , Gizmo refers to "drop my rights" & sandboxes ,etc. I think these would expand your security ; but they do not suit everyone , so no rush . I was lucky to have a sandbox from the outset & would not be without it - habits etc.
Note that Chrome uses a "sandbox" system , but does not restrict downloading as rigorously.

Purely from my own experience , I would not run two A/Spyware "on guard" at the same time - plus , the added benefit is unclear.

You seem to have a pretty good base as it is , so it
( oops a daisy - that tried to getaway as well )
is more a question of adding real benefits like back up/on demand software & improving habits - from where I'm sitting , that is.

I notice you mention a PMD for your treasure ; the experts tell us to back up the back up - on a different media if possible .Depends on your paranoia setting .but they could be correct.

Not sure if that covers all , but it is something to be going on with & I'm sure plenty of others will correct me where I'm wrong & have additional advice.

Ta Ta fer nou
Anthony

(OK , I"m done . Don't hesitate to ask about anything that isn't clear as mud :))

***PS: I consider "HIPS" to be a useful benefit to me - even if "MidnightCowboy's" article is on the long side.

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Hello Valerie

It may help if you follow the most straightforward system . Apart from Sandboxes & details , Maurice & I are not so far apart** - as my base I use a paid for Internet Security Suite & use support programmes similar to those he uses ( with my budget - mine are "free")

As you feel confident with his advice , why not ignore this thread & stick with him .

We can still help out if either of you need us .

Take care
Anthony.

**as they say down here "chacun a son gout , chacun a ses defauts"

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I am confident with and very much appreciate advice from both you and Maurice but I don't always understand what is said in the links though I hate to admit it. There is sometimes terminology that means little to me but I learn quite fast and am picking things up as I go along.

It took ages to get my pc back to normal when I had to use recovery disks early this year and as I have to do everything myself, it can be a bit scary. I always feel like one wrong move and my screen will go black with no sign of life! I have been told I could take my computer to an IT shop, but I cannot get my computer to a shop! So, I rely on the kind advice of people like yourselves.

Many thanks for your guidance.

Valerie
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Hi Valerie , How's things .

I came across this on Gizmo's site ; it's quite brief & easy(?) to understand:-o))

http://www.techsupportalert.com/freeware-forum/sec...

Comodo have a free version of CIS & a paid version which offers a help/repair service - you can test it before you decide . CIS also includes a nifty "Trojan" killer called BOClean .

You can also get all the bits separately.

Good luck with your search .

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Hi Anthony

thank you for taking the time and trouble to explain at length what you mean. It sounds far too complex for me. Maybe I am lazy but I like things really simple but I am very keen on my computer remaining clean.

I paid for Malwarebytes yesterday and trust it. I have been happy with Avast Home Edition and love the way it updates once or thrice a day! Maurice refers to Comodo which I shall check. Avast has caught viruses and deleted them at the click of a button. I do want a backup online scanner and was not too sure about Trendmicro and I also read something admitted by their company, allegedly, which was none too impressive.

Enjoy your wine. I just made myself a strawberry smoothie.

Valerie
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Here's to your smoothie , Valerie , (tend to have mine for brekkie ; but not known to say no ).

By what you say your bad surfing habits are , then a "software" firewall in place of the windows standard would make me feel more comfortable .

For what it's Worth (FWIW) , if I were forced to change my system then the Comodo** Firewall would likely be my joint 1st choice , you could use it on it's own with Avast + MBAM & you have a good base.
Replacing the Avast bit with the Comodo Internet Security bit would probably not change much other than having everything in the same "house" (& the service option in the paid version).
I personally would not buy anything unless I was sure I liked it & would use any trial period/free offer I could .

HaH ! Still sounds like a light summer shower to me , try a real African storm for size !!

Take your time & keep smelling the flowers.

Anthony

**the fuss about Comodo is a "blogger" & she is half wrong/silly & the other part refers to "business ethics" ; as there are no ethics in business whatsoever , it's a convoluted storm in a teacup & does not alter the quality of the firewall.

PS; Kaspersky do a good on line scanner , it's a bit
heavy as you need to load everything each time , but then you don't need it everyday .

http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner

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Hi Anthony

Hope all is well, wherever you are.

Thank you so much for the link to Kaspersky (I usually spell that wrongly!). I shall indeed check it out. I am staying with Windows firewall for the time being and am checking out, with Maurice, my idea for buying the Avast Professional.

I was kindly sent a link to listen to comments by one of the designers of Malwarebytes (which I trust) and I was impressed by what he had to say. It made sense to me. He rated Avast as freeware but did say that he considered the paid version of Kaspersky one of only two paid AVs that he would consider.

Best regards. Have a great weekend.

Valerie
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